Putt that dropped after 23 seconds.....

[Deleted member 18121]

I'm not massively up on the rules but I thought there was a 10 second rule for things like this......I can understand it could be minutes if shot was hit from 200 yards away, but a 10 foot putt?

[video=youtube;ujnQ4MW8QKc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujnQ4MW8QKc[/video]

 

[Tongo]

I'm not massively up on the rules but I thought there was a 10 second rule for things like this......I can understand it could be minutes if shot was hit from 200 yards away, but a 10 foot putt?

[video=youtube;ujnQ4MW8QKc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujnQ4MW8QKc[/video]

I always thought it was 10 seconds. There seemed to be quite a bit of waiting / hoping in that vid!

 

[TheJezster]

Think it's 10 seconds from when you get to the ball isn't it? And as he approached it was still moving, so he stopped and waited. It then dropped.

 

[Region3]

Think it's 10 seconds from when you get to the ball isn't it? And as he approached it was still moving, so he stopped and waited. It then dropped.

I thought it was just 10 seconds waiting plus a sensible amount of time to walk to the ball, regardless of whether you wait for 10 seconds before or after you walk to the hole.

For me, that was too long and shouldn't count as the previous putt having dropped, unless I've either got the rule wrong or the ball was still moving when it looked like it had stopped.

 

[markgs]

listen to the commentator it was still moving and your not allowed to hit a moving ball quite simply what ask the question and its already been answered

 

[Region3]

listen to the commentator it was still moving and your not allowed to hit a moving ball quite simply what ask the question and its already been answered

Not everyone has speakers on their work computer

 

[turkish]

He stopped and waited because it was still moving so wasn't stationary

 

[pogle]

He stopped and waited because it was still moving so wasn't stationary

The rules give you have a reasonable time to reach the ball plus a further 10 seconds. At that point the ball is deemed to be stationary - even if it is actually moving. In this case you can make a stroke at a ball that's moving, because the rules say it's at rest.

 

[duncan mackie]

I thought it was just 10 seconds waiting plus a sensible amount of time to walk to the ball, regardless of whether you wait for 10 seconds before or after you walk to the hole.

For me, that was too long and shouldn't count as the previous putt having dropped, unless I've either got the rule wrong or the ball was still moving when it looked like it had stopped.

you have the rule correct, but I would suggest that in this case it's right on the margin all round...

he moves slowly but the ball falls in around 10 secs from the point at which he arrives level with the hole

when the ball is still visibly moving like this it's also hard to determine the point at which you are starting the clock on an overhanging ball!

I don't think he was pushing things too far here

as Pogle highlights, there are 2 quite separate issues at play in the rule - 1 is to prevent people waiting hours for an overhanging ball to finally drop and the second is to protect the player from penalty for playing a 'moving ball'

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Don't really see too much wrong as the ball is clearly moving and surely there was a threat of a penalty, especially with TV evidence and armchair referees for playing a moving ball

 

[NorfolkShaun]

Don't really see too much wrong as the ball is clearly moving and surely there was a threat of a penalty, especially with TV evidence and armchair referees for playing a moving ball

Have to agree with this, imagine the calls from the armchair refs had he hit it as it was moving

 

[Slab]

Maybe just a technicality, but is an oscillating ball a moving ball?