Putt ending in Bunker...

[drdel]

When playing yesterday my mate over-hit his putt sending it gently into the Bunker i.e. dropping beside the lip.

He now takes two shots to get out of the bunker and then two puts to hole out; e.g. 5 shots including the over-hit put.

I am right in thinking he could have declared it unplayable for a one shot penalty and retaken his original put and, if he'd holed it, scored 3 shots?

 

[pbrown7582]

Yes. That's correct.

 

[chrisd]

Strange but true!

 

[rosecott]

When playing yesterday my mate over-hit his putt sending it gently into the Bunker i.e. dropping beside the lip.

He now takes two shots to get out of the bunker and then two puts to hole out; e.g. 5 shots including the over-hit put.

I am right in thinking he could have declared it unplayable for a one shot penalty and retaken his original put and, if he'd holed it, scored 3 shots?

Assuming he was on the green with his tee shot, he would have been down in 6 - but he could have been down in 4 if he had sunk the putt having declared the ball in the bunker unplayable.

 

[delc]

Rules 27-1a and 28 apply in this case.

 

[DCB]

27-1a ? How / why that one ?

28 covers it in the scenario described does it not ?

 

[delc]

27-1a ? How / why that one ?

28 covers it in the scenario described does it not ?

Rule 28a refers back to Rule 27-1a, which states that at any time you may put another ball into play under penalty of stroke and distance.

 

[rosecott]

Rule 28a refers back to Rule 27-1a, which states that at any time you may put another ball into play under penalty of stroke and distance.

In that case, why not also mention 20-5 as well - 28 also refers to it.

 

[DCB]

Rule 28a refers back to Rule 27-1a, which states that at any time you may put another ball into play under penalty of stroke and distance.

But the OP wasn't putting "another ball into play" he was asking if an unplayable ball could be replayed from its original position under stroke & distance .

 

[louise_a]

If you declare an unplayable lie in a bunker you can drop within 2 club lengths not near the hole but still in the bunker or go back along the line but still in the bunker or replay the shot from the original position. All under penalty of one shot.

 

[rulefan]

Rule 28a refers back to Rule 27-1a, which states that at any time you may put another ball into play under penalty of stroke and distance.

27-1 doesn't say that. It says "At any time, a player may, play a ball .... at the spot from which the original ball was last played.

 

[rulefan]

But the OP wasn't putting "another ball into play" he was asking if an unplayable ball could be replayed from its original position under stroke & distance .

It can of course. But by proceeding under (the stroke and distance provision of) rule 27-1.

 

[palindromicbob]

Often tempted to deliberately do this just to see what playing partners say.

 

[rulefan]

Woods did something similar a few years ago when he over putted and his ball rolled into a water hazard. He simply "proceeded under the stroke and distance provision of Rule 27-1 by playing a ball as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played"

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Assuming he was on the green with his tee shot, he would have been down in 6 - but he could have been down in 4 if he had sunk the putt having declared the ball in the bunker unplayable.

Doesn't even have to declare it unplayable - just declares he is taking S&D

I did it once when from off the back of a green I misjudged my chip on and chipped off the front - it rolled away down a steep close mown slope and ended up 30yds from the putting surface in the middle of the fairway. With the flag near the front of the green there was a very big risk I'd pitch short and it would end up back at my feet - more than once as I'd done, and seen many others do, in the past. Also big risk of getting pitch direction wrong and it rolling back or landing in a huge deep greenside front bunker - a horrid place.

So I took stroke and distance and took my chip again - knowing the shot to play this time. I got down in two second time for a 6 and was OK with that. My PPs were a bit confuddled when I declared S&D but I explained and they were then OK with it.