Project X Blue 6.5 Driver Shaft

[Vardon11LDN]

I have just picked up a used Project X 6.5 shaft on Ebay for £30 to experiment with after being told that I would benefit from a stiffer shaft. It is replacing the stock Stiff Motore Evolution 57 on my TM R15. I have a high ball flight and my main miss is a high spinning fade (slice!). I was wondering what difference in permance I should expect?

 

[One Planer]

I have just picked up a used Project X 6.5 shaft on Ebay for £30 to experiment with after being told that I would benefit from a stiffer shaft. It is replacing the stock Stiff Motore Evolution 57 on my TM R15. I have a high ball flight and my main miss is a high spinning fade (slice!). I was wondering what difference in permance I should expect?

Without seeing your swing, it's hard to say.

If you're hitting a fade/slice with the current shaft, I'm not sure moving up a flex will make much, if any difference. If the face isn't squaring to the path with stiff shaft, it'll if anything be more open with the PX6.5.

If you were over loading a shaft, I would expect your misses to be left as opposed to right.

Knowing how poor TM's stock shaft offerings are, the PX 6.5 will probably feel like you're swinging a fire poker.

 

[patricks148]

I'm no expert, but i expect this to be a quite firm shaft so instead of high and right , maybe low and right instead.

 

[Ethan]

I think that is a big step up. The stock shaft on the TM is rubbish, but the PX6.5 is a real man's driver shaft. It may take you a bit of time to get used to it.

 

[Alex1975]

PX Blue Graphite for me is the most harsh, unfeeling, beyond bordy shaft I have ever tied and in 6.5 its going to be a scaffold pole.

Clearly an opinion as we all feel things differently.

 

[simplyme]

As the above have said, that shaft is a monster. My teaching pro uses this shaft and I have had a few hits with it and struggled, my avg driver swing speed is 104.

 

[Simbo]

I have just picked up a used Project X 6.5 shaft on Ebay for £30 to experiment with after being told that I would benefit from a stiffer shaft. It is replacing the stock Stiff Motore Evolution 57 on my TM R15. I have a high ball flight and my main miss is a high spinning fade (slice!). I was wondering what difference in permance I should expect?

First thing- who recommended a stiffer shaft for you? A teaching pro or just some guy down the range?
I'm not a fan of swapping shafts and stuff about, better off going and getting fitted and then sticking with it.
I went and got fitted and now use this shaft in my driver because like you I have a high ball flight, it did bring my ball flight down, mines weighs 83g. But you need to have the power to hit it. As others have said It is like swinging a scaffolding pole. I probably shouldnt be hitting it anymore as I don't think I have the power/swing speed to get the best out of it anymore. Sometimes it's ok but sometimes I think that shaft has no feeling in it. It didn't make much difference for me in the fade/draw scenario though. I'm still capable of lashing it widly in any direction.

 

[the_coach]

would echo the first line of the previous post - as to who recommended a stiffer shaft? if that recommendation was with the knowledge of some 'measured' launch parameters ?

there's stiff shafts & then's there's a bunch tip stiffer & heavier ...

the real important couple of numbers to best driver distance would be LA & spinrate (assuming good impact face location)

the 'blue' is also likely to be heavier than the newer low launch low spin shaft models, so heavier & 6.5 gives a torque that takes some swinging particularly through a whole 18 - project X's newer versions of the blue, in the 'Black', the 'PXV Tour52' & 'PXV' maybe not quite so taxing to swing but still have similar shaft profiles, stiffness through the shafts overall torques - Blue is heavier, butt stiff, mid not so stiff (in relation to butt & tip), but tip stiffer than butt

if the problem, the driver issue, with the current shaft is too higher launch too much spin & you don't know the launch monitor #'s would possibly be down to technique issue & adding more loft at impact - especially if 'true' carry is under 230 yards
if it's not so much about height issues but too many 'lefts' that maybes not down to stiffness of shaft (though it could be) but more down to the combination of swing path, face angle & impact face location

but if the 'true' carry distance is over 250-260 despite higher launch & high spin then could well mean current shaft is not well matched to 'release pattern', CHS, & launch conditions

appreciate the shaft buy is an experiment to some extent & given the newer shaft releases the older 'Blue' (guess its the 70grms version) could be a ways cheap anyways

but you would really need to know the current launch condition #'s, shot outcome #'s, plus what the 'release pattern' is as a norm

so as a kinda ballpark figure to 'work' it efficiently the swing model would be up to PGA Tour average around 112mph with a quicker overall tempo at transition to stress the shaft combined with a late release given the shaft is tip stiff

if more an index players average at 90 even a better index player 95-104 mph with an earlier to mid release is going to find most likely that the LA is too low plus there is not enough spin to flight the ball - so ball flight would generally tend to be low, right & short given a strike from best location on face (in line with head CG)

 

[One Planer]

I'll echo Coach's comments on the Project X PXv Tour 52.

I have one of these currently installed in my driver in PX6.0 and it is a lovely shaft to flight.

I'm toying with moving back to the Graphite Design Tour AD YSQ 65 in stiff, purely because it's soooo smooth.

 

[Alex1975]

I'll echo Coach's comments on the Project X PXv Tour 52.

I have one of these currently installed in my driver in PX6.0 and it is a lovely shaft to flight.

I'm toying with moving back to the Graphite Design Tour AD YSQ 65 in stiff, purely because it's soooo smooth.

Like butter....

 

[One Planer]

Like butter....

Just so easy to load Al'.

Very stable too, just like the PXv Tour 52.

 

[Alex1975]

Just so easy to load Al'.

Very stable too, just like the PXv Tour 52.

Yep, I think that is a Graphite Design trait but particularly in the YSQ.

Playing with my new driver last night and its so important to be able to feel like you have a shaft that loads how you want. It sounds all a bit above a club golfers remit but it so is not! Once you find a shaft that feels like it works with you its a beautiful thing.

 

[Trojan615]

I got the same model from mizuno after being fitted for the black.. Unfortunately the chap who fitted the mizuno hotel didn't fit it correctly and it snapped and had to be re fitted..
Shortened the driver and stiffened it it a smidgen...if you don't like the shaft pm me and I will take it off you!

Cheers
P

 

[groundskeeperwilly]

I've used the PX Blue 6.5 on and off for the last couple of seasons (including a spell in a R15 head) and as the other folk have said it is a big step up from your stock shaft. However, I have not seen your swing so it may well be that it does suit you better if you're able to load it well enough.

What did you use before you got the R15? Did it perform any better?