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Just listening to president Obama talking about the UK going to the back of the queue were it to exit the EU.

Sorry pal but you have come across as a grade one idiot You remind me of the bullying president in "Love actually".

would love Mexico or Canada start trying to dictate there laws to the USA and see there response.

MR Obama talks about the special relationship,

He has gone right down in my estimation.
 
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Tashyboy said:
Just listening to president Obama talking about the UK going to the back of the queue were it to exit the EU.

Sorry pal but you have come across as a grade one idiot. You remind me of the bullying president in "Love actually".

would love Mexico or Canada start trying to dictate there laws to the USA and see there response.

MR Obama talks about the special relationship,.

He has gone right down in my estimation.
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And if he had said the UK should leave the EU you would no doubt be praising him for his forthright opinions.

His opinion as leader of our biggest ally and the most powerful country in the world is important and, on this issue, was no secret.

Less impressive was Boris' snidey reference to Obama's Kenyan heritage. Absolutely pathetic!
 
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What he said on the clip I saw was that the USA was negotiating a trade deal with the EU and they wouldn't be looking to do one with the U.K. anytime soon if we pulled out as the EU one was the most important- seems fair and honest to me
 
Tashyboy said:
Just listening to president Obama talking about the UK going to the back of the queue were it to exit the EU.

Sorry pal but you have come across as a grade one idiot You remind me of the bullying president in "Love actually".

would love Mexico or Canada start trying to dictate there laws to the USA and see there response.

MR Obama talks about the special relationship,

He has gone right down in my estimation.
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Persoanlly think he's just saying what Cameron has asked him too. Some people on the fence may now vote stay in beciase of it. Don't for one second think that us exiting would stop our special relationship.
 
Lame duck president and has been for a very long time. No matter what your views on the eu, no US president would even consider a similar state of affairs for their own country. But it's ok if it's inflicted on us. How about they remove the mexican border control, allow free movement from central America and give them millions of dollars a week for the privilege?
 
Tashyboy said:
Just listening to president Obama talking about the UK going to the back of the queue were it to exit the EU.

Sorry pal but you have come across as a grade one idiot You remind me of the bullying president in "Love actually".

would love Mexico or Canada start trying to dictate there laws to the USA and see there response.

MR Obama talks about the special relationship,

He has gone right down in my estimation.
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He is giving an opinion (not dictating laws, bit of a paranoid stretch of the imagination there) as the leader of one of the most powerful trading nations in the world and a country we do a lot of business with. Feel free to ignore it, it's just an opinion.

But if you think his opinion does not count then feel free to try again with someone like Trump or Cruz and see how amenable they are to do trade deals with non Americans. Speaking as someone that works for a company that does business in the US It is hard enough to sell stuff there now if you have not manufactured it in America. If a Republican gets in and we exit the EU then best of luck there whining away that 'they need us as much as we need them'. I think you'll find out pretty quickly that that ain't true.
 
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While I agree with Obama re staying in the EU I'm not sure that what he has to say holds much weight in the overall debate. If the UK were to leave then by the time that negotiations reached an advanced stage he would no longer be in power. Both Clinton and Trump have said that they are not in favour of the TTIP agreement as they feel it would have an adverse impact on American jobs so there is no guarantee of it even going ahead. I would be more interested in the views of Clinton/Saunders and Trump/Cruz as to how they see thigs going.
 
He gave his opinion on that point in response to the exit side stating that we could enter into new trade deals straight away with the US. Severely clarified the position of the country he runs by saying that the deal would happen but the EU deal comes first.
 
Get back on your plane.....keep your nose out of our affairs and bide your time until Donald takes over, or go home and try to convince your own electorate to see sense!!
The potential mess in the US just sums up why we shouldn't listen to an American giving us advice on voting.
 
Hacker he is not dictating laws but the EU are, that is why I compared Mexico to the EU. Struggling to see where the paranoia or imagination are
If giving opinions is ok, how about handing Hawaii back to well Hawaii.
However you dress it up you do not interfere with others countrys policy's. That is my gripe irrespective of whether he agrees with my opinions on in or out.
If he is so interested in giving his opinion I look forward to showing him around Shirebrook tomorrow so he can see the hardships it is causing there
We are now at the back of the queue. So much for a special relationship that now seems to suit them more than us.
Quite frankly no I don't think his opinion counts and he should of kept his gob shut.
All of the " foreign" opinions I have heard are based upon "What they will lose and not what we will gain".
Mr Obama falls heavily in that category.
Also Hacker, guess what, if a republican gets in. That is what the people of the USA have voted for whether you or I like it. The same as whether we vote to stay in or out of the EU.
Again Hacker the whining away " that they need us as much as we need them", eh.
If your company may struggle to trade in America, guess what nobody gave two hoots when my company went tits up when this government turned its back on its own taxpayers when it could of applied to the EU for grant aid.
 
Did anyone really expect him to say any different. He's obviously looking after his own intrests, that of the USA. If UK comes out we'll be a small fish in a big pond and noone should be surprised if we're having to scrabble about under the table for scraps rather than sitting at the table eating a nice wagyu.
 
Maybe geographically we'd be a small fish in a big pond but with the world's 5th (?) largest economy I don't think we'd be in as weak a position as a lot in the Remain camp would like us to believe.
 
It's a load of jumped up tosh and backscratching between Camo and his past sell by mate. We and the EU don't have a free trade agreement now, so if we go it alone we wont have one then, whats the difference! We would trade with the same conditions as we do now and the USA would still very much want to trade with us.

Dont have nightmares.
 
I find it funny how many of the politicians and political commentators who welcomed his comments about the Scottish referendum are now up in arms over this. 😂
 
Ah the Scottish referendum. Lets think back to some comments from that and try to see if people have the same principles with the EU referendum.

DFT said:

"Keep swallowing the 'yes minister' line if you wish. I don't buy it.
Everything that has come out of the UK treasury is negative towards an independent Scotland, do you not question that.
There are many reports that suggest Scotland will be richer outside of the UK"

SILH said:

"Yes but surely the Scots voters have to know what a NO vote means as much as what a YES vote means. If NO means 'no change' then they should just be told that - what is so difficult about doing that. It would certainly make things clearer and perhaps easier for the BT Campaign to sell - getting rid of suspicions that are held about what might happen following a NO. These suspicions just play into the hands of the YES campaign.

Of course the BT campaign and Westminster don't have to say a thing about life for Scotland post a NO - but by keeping schtum I don't think it helps their case - it simply fuels suspicions."
 
I have to say I was really shocked and angered when I read what Obama had said. I didn't expect him to say anything in favour of brexit, but the strength of his tone was, as far as I know, unprecedented from a foreign leader on a matter of which he is not involved.
Hopefully next time the Americans want us to lay down the lives of our servicemen in support of their wars, we will tell them to get to the back of the queue. Also hopefully, this will end once and for all the talk of a "special relationship", something that hasn't existed in decades. Remember John Kerry couldn't stop telling us that France was their oldest ally? The US trick of telling everyone they are special is something they do over and over again to help them get what they want. To our shame, we have fallen for it again and again.
More importantly in my view, I never thought I would see the day when a British Prime Minister would stand next to a foreign leader on British soil and advocate everything the foreign leader said while he bullied and threatened the British people and told us what to do. I am naturally a conservative voter. You would have to go a long way to make me consider going against that, but I cannot forgive Mr. Cameron for this. I will never place a vote for him again. I want a PM who will stand up for Britain, not for everyone else but Britain. For me it's kind of an essential part of the job. The whole thing, the sheer politics of desperation, the cynical Downing St spin which I thought had gone with Tony Blair, is an absolute disgrace.
The one thing I would like to know from the President I used to admire is this. When we go to the back of the queue (or should I say "line") for a trade deal with America, what trade deal is he talking about? We have never had a trade deal with America. If he wants to shut out the 5th biggest economy in the world, go for it. The truth is he knows that his planned US favoured trade deal with the EU is worthless without Britain. If he was any kind of man he would admit that.
 
Sweep said:
I have to say I was really shocked and angered when I read what Obama had said. I didn't expect him to say anything in favour of brexit, but the strength of his tone was, as far as I know, unprecedented from a foreign leader on a matter of which he is not involved.
Hopefully next time the Americans want us to lay down the lives of our servicemen in support of their wars, we will tell them to get to the back of the queue. Also hopefully, this will end once and for all the talk of a "special relationship", something that hasn't existed in decades. Remember John Kerry couldn't stop telling us that France was their oldest ally? The US trick of telling everyone they are special is something they do over and over again to help them get what they want. To our shame, we have fallen for it again and again.
More importantly in my view, I never thought I would see the day when a British Prime Minister would stand next to a foreign leader on British soil and advocate everything the foreign leader said while he bullied and threatened the British people and told us what to do. I am naturally a conservative voter. You would have to go a long way to make me consider going against that, but I cannot forgive Mr. Cameron for this. I will never place a vote for him again. I want a PM who will stand up for Britain, not for everyone else but Britain. For me it's kind of an essential part of the job. The whole thing, the sheer politics of desperation, the cynical Downing St spin which I thought had gone with Tony Blair, is an absolute disgrace.
The one thing I would like to know from the President I used to admire is this. When we go to the back of the queue (or should I say "line") for a trade deal with America, what trade deal is he talking about? We have never had a trade deal with America. If he wants to shut out the 5th biggest economy in the world, go for it. The truth is he knows that his planned US favoured trade deal with the EU is worthless without Britain. If he was any kind of man he would admit that.
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A good post that echos my feelings towards Cameron and his weasely two faces.
 
Sweep said:
I have to say I was really shocked and angered when I read what Obama had said. I didn't expect him to say anything in favour of brexit, but the strength of his tone was, as far as I know, unprecedented from a foreign leader on a matter of which he is not involved.
Hopefully next time the Americans want us to lay down the lives of our servicemen in support of their wars, we will tell them to get to the back of the queue. Also hopefully, this will end once and for all the talk of a "special relationship", something that hasn't existed in decades. Remember John Kerry couldn't stop telling us that France was their oldest ally? The US trick of telling everyone they are special is something they do over and over again to help them get what they want. To our shame, we have fallen for it again and again.
More importantly in my view, I never thought I would see the day when a British Prime Minister would stand next to a foreign leader on British soil and advocate everything the foreign leader said while he bullied and threatened the British people and told us what to do. I am naturally a conservative voter. You would have to go a long way to make me consider going against that, but I cannot forgive Mr. Cameron for this. I will never place a vote for him again. I want a PM who will stand up for Britain, not for everyone else but Britain. For me it's kind of an essential part of the job. The whole thing, the sheer politics of desperation, the cynical Downing St spin which I thought had gone with Tony Blair, is an absolute disgrace.
The one thing I would like to know from the President I used to admire is this. When we go to the back of the queue (or should I say "line") for a trade deal with America, what trade deal is he talking about? We have never had a trade deal with America. If he wants to shut out the 5th biggest economy in the world, go for it. The truth is he knows that his planned US favoured trade deal with the EU is worthless without Britain. If he was any kind of man he would admit that.
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Good post. Sadly, if the polls are to be believe, he's just totally pee'd off almost 50% of the U.K. A cynical attempt at ramping up the fear...
 
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