Police Scotland's latest failing.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-33463584

Serious questions to be answered here.

Three days to respond to a call regarding a car leaving the motorway. Bloke dead and his girlfriend critical.

This is hot on the heels of last weeks report on the poor response times to 999 calls by Police Scotland. I can't help but wonder if the centralisation by the devolved parliament of the separate forces under one all encompassing banner is somehow responsible for this.

Appaling that this should have happened.
 
chippa1909 said:
Yeah, it's bad but I suppose balls-ups happen.
I seem to remember a few years back police searching a flat looking for a missing person and failing to find the body behind a bath panel until eventually it started to pong a bit. Happened in England I believe, so no reason to politicise it.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/spl/aberdeen/police-failed-to-find-body-in-bathroom-1.591645
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Slightly different from not bothering yer arse attending though, is it not?
 
Gross Negligence Manslaughter?
Did the guy die at impact, or did he die later?
Questions indeed!
 
c1973 said:
Slightly different from not bothering yer arse attending though, is it not?
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When did they issue crystal balls as standard equipment then? Call centre operative that took the call didn't enter it on the system so the officers didn't know; hardly not bothering yer arse attending.
 
Call centre operative that is (I'm pretty sure) a civilian employee of Police Scotland. All part of the same operation imo. 'The call had been taken by an "experienced officer''......'.

So yes, someone never bothered their arse (although this comment was directed at a response trying to draw, wrongly imo, comparisons with historical cases and was not necessarily intended as a slur on yer average copper), hence the apology from Police Scotland admitting the force had 'failed both families'.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-33480569


Im more concerned about the system they have been forced to work under for purely political reasons.

''Scottish Liberal Democrat leader Willie Rennie has written to Mr Matheson (Justice Secretary and local msp) asking for a full independent inquiry, saying the closure of a number of local control rooms under the move to the single police force could have had a "detrimental impact". Which was my initial thought, hence my original post.


BTW. I'm not the only one that doesn't have faith in this latest piece of centralisation by the snp devolved 'government'. Many remain to be convinced, I believe.
 
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I'm sure if the member of the public had dialled 999 instead of the NON emergency 101 number, things would have been handled differently.

And if wee Willie Rennie and his Lib Dems paid their £800,000 VAT bill for policing their conference in Scotland, it may have paid for a couple of extra phone operators.
 
Or if the snp had listened to the civil servants that informed them a national police force (as opposed to the regional ones) would have to pay vat on services and goods, around £25 million I think? They might have had a few bob to finance things properly.

But, no. They go ahead and change to a national force (despite knowing the vat implications) BEFORE sorting out this trifling matter that could pay for a helluva lot more than a 'couple of extra phone operators'!

As I said, has centralisation been responsible at some level.

Still, they get to blame the UK government (for a mess of their own making) and manage to stick the word Scotland in their as a wee bonus......So it's all good, eh? :(
 
Indeed.

But I'm well aware of the shortcomings of the government of this 'union' of nations, fully aware the sun is in fact not shining out their erse, If only the same could be said of others.............



:)
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-33497318

Sadly the girl has now passed away as well.

The 'senior officer' who took the call is apparently still on duty, I'd have thought suspension while an inquiry was carried out would have been the protocol here.

I hope that the two families see justice delivered. They have been let down badly by Police Scotland and/or it's political paymasters (snp devolved government) imo, resulting in the (quite possibly avoidable) deaths of two young people.
 
Sad case and answers are obviously needed. On the other hand the main opponent to getting rid of county police forces are the police themselves and all for the wrong reasons.

Its an obvious way of getting rid of all those well paid desk jockey senior officers allowing the money to be spent where it's needed. IMO obviously.
 
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Certainly hear what you're saying Old Skier, but my belief is that the change was made as one chief constable is easier to control and 'get on message' than seven (I believe it was previously). That and the ability to tag 'Scotland' onto the livery and headed notepaper etc.
Cynical? Perhaps. Possible? Most certainly.

Either way, there are (and have been since its inception) rumblings of discontent around back office functionality etc from those concerned in delivering the service as well as others not directly involved.
As mentioned earlier, there have been concerns about response times regarding 999 calls as recently as last week, with Sir Sephen House (CC) having to answer question to a Holyrood committee as recently as last week.

My concern is that whilst essential public services like Police and NHS are suffering under the snp devolved government, and people suffering as a result, they are more interested in constantly picking fights with/and blaming the UK government for failings of their own making.
 
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