playoffs

[geronimo]

watching the rerun of the fbr open and it has gone to a playoff with Phil m and j b Holmes.

they go back to the 18th par 5.

J B has hit 355yds to Phil's 298yds does this give the big hitters an unfair advantage on sudden death playoff.

Why not go to a par 3 for a playoff? that way it is an even playing field for sudden death.

Now i know there is a gallery at the 18th and they will not want to move about but the 18th is not always used on playoffs, or would a 2 or 3 hole playoff be better.

So what do we think is best for a playoff?

The bigger hitter J B Holmes wins with the help of his caddy lining him up for the put i might add.

 

[MVP]

I dont think it gives the big hitters an advantage. at the end of the day Mickleson has supposedly got the best (as they say) Short game in the world so when it comes to there next shots does this give Phil an unfair advantage???? there both tour pros mickleson can probably hit it 330+ but he knows he will lose so much control so he doesnt bother its down to the best golfer on the day.

 

[geronimo]

If it is on a par 3 there really should not be a short game shot.

Hit a mid iron to the hole (something all pro's who are in a play off must have) then putting.

No long shots and no short shots.

 

[MVP]

If a pro haz developed his game to hit the ball long and accurate then he has earned his victory in any tournament regardless of what par it is. If what your saying would go ahead then there would be no par 5s at all because long hitters will get an 'advantage' on all the long holes. Its just the way it is. Like i said most pros can hit driver 300+ its just they would lose the desired control.

 

[geronimo]

on a lot of courses specially in the us it can make no difference if you hit the fairway or not as you can land on another fairway and still have a good lie, you might be unsighted but your caddy will get you your line.

The rough is not as bad either on most courses, I suspect that courses are getting set up with the long hitter in mind as the gallery's give it big oooo's when the ball is hit long and probably some of the manufacturers will be pushing for long courses as distance sell's

 

[geronimo]

if you look at the top ten 2007 world rankings the driving stats tell a story.

distance accuracy
1 woods 12 152
2 mickelson 29 181
3 furyk 171 3
4 els 31 179
5 stricker 146 97
6 rose 96 95
7 scott 18 160
8 harrington 60 174
9 choi 144 79
10 singh 58 155

goes a bit of the way to prove you don't need to be accurate and that the courses don't have a big enough penalty for not being on the fairway.
With the exception of furyk the rest of the top ten accuracy is shocking.

 

[birdieman]

Good post geronimo, time the rough really was rough, accuracy should be rewarded off the tee by penalising those who miss fairways!

 

[RGuk]

Interesting thought.

If I had to play-off on the last hole of my course (not that it would happen) I'd be laughing as you can only drive 203 to the lake.....

If it was done on a long hole, I may as well not bother!

Pro's know how to play the hole to their best advantage.....if the last is a par 5 and one player can reach in two and the other, no chance, than I'd say choose another hole or play 3 holes. but rules is rules.

????? don't know really...

 

[Dodger]

always think that the opens 4 hole play off is a fair play off system as you would think that most if not all parts of the game would be used but not all tour events would like using this as t.v. etc would not permit I suppose.

 

[rgs]

Saw the playoff last evening-Phil had 138 yds to the pin and put his ball 30 ft above the hole, left him a right to left swinging downhiller-JB hit the fairway and had 73 yds left and put his ball 6/8 feet above the hole relatively straight.

I agree with Dodger the Opens 4 hole play off is the fairest givesyou a chance to redeem yourself if you hit one poor shot on the first playoff hole.

 

[shanker]

I agree with Dodger and RGS. The 4-hole play-off format is the best. Don't the Americans still have an 18-hole play-off in the case of a tie? What an anti-climax.
Also, I'd like to congratulate RGS for referring to our Open as THE Open.

 

[rgs]

Shanker its not your open its THE OPEN

 

[shanker]

Shanker its not your open its THE OPEN

Point taken RGS. I do apologise. I also appreciate that Ireland is a great golfing nation and had no wish to offend anyone.

 

[viscount17]

geronimo, must be thick - what do those figures mean; 1 woods 12 152, mickelson 29 181, furyk 171 3 etc?

wouldn't a 3-hole play-off be better - less chance of a tie?

 

[geronimo]

geronimo, must be thick - what do those figures mean; 1 woods 12 152, mickelson 29 181, furyk 171 3 etc?

wouldn't a 3-hole play-off be better - less chance of a tie?

thanks for the complement, will refrain from responding in the same vain.

1 = number in the world rankings for 2007.
Woods = the golfers name.
12 = his world ranking for distance of the tee.
152 = his ranking for accuracy of the tee.
ect

if you want me too break it down any more for you ask nice and i might.

 

[viscount17]

okay thanks - and I meant I must be thick, not you

 

[geronimo]

well i retract my statement and give you my apologies.

When i wrote the response the words distance and accuracy where above the numbers, but after i posted the response the forum compressed everything to the edge and put everything out of alignment.

 

[rgs]

Shanker was not upset or annoyed-just wishing to ensure THE OPEN is referred to in the appropriate manner-
Your Open based on your residence is the Spanish Open or if you lived in England before that then your Open was the English Open, which is defunct-i think. which is a pity as i feel every country especially England should have is own Open Championship.

 

[shanker]

Shanker was not upset or annoyed-just wishing to ensure THE OPEN is referred to in the appropriate manner-
Your Open based on your residence is the Spanish Open or if you lived in England before that then your Open was the English Open, which is defunct-i think. which is a pity as i feel every country especially England should have is own Open Championship.

Never mind RGS. Thanks for not reminding us that the present champion is a Dubliner. He is, isn't he? Or is he from Kerry?

 

[rgs]

Hes a Dub with Cork blood-his parents are from Cork,

His late father was a great gaelic footballer in the 50's and played in i think 2 losing All Irland finals.

So suggesting Harrington is from Kerry is definitely a red rag to a bull.