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Spoke to the south rep today about my club concerns. Up till now I've treated my pro's input as gospel but recently I've started to have doubts. Popped in to Nevada Bobs and had a chat with their man Morgan. What a great bloke, really helpful and eager to help rather than sell.

Anyway long story short I am sticking with my original plan of waiting till my swing matures before I get a driver. Also am less worried about the fairway shaft than I had become, though I could have save myself a couple of quid and got the stock serrano.

Most interesting revelation is that my wedges are all wrong. Oh well it's a learning curve and PING have a new fan. Now where did I put my pipe and slippers... ;)
 
Hi Tiger

Am interested in this - I've just had my first round on a long course and struggled a bit with the driver. I played 9 holes, 7 of which were driver length: 4 straight but shooting along the ground, 1 straight up in the air and only 150 yards, one horrid slice and 1 properly flighted, good distance 230yarder.

I am beginning to think that the three wood might be a better option which I am getting used to woods not irons... I have a a driver, 3, 5 & 7 woods (donated by a friend, but not bad quality) so plenty to chose from.

Do you need a more mature swing for a driver than a three wood, do you think?

Cheers
 
1 straight up in the air and only 150 yards
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Tee your ball lower and move it forward in your stance: then you would only have had 5 bad tee shots rather than 6 :)

Actually, a better idea would be to get a driving lesson and practice what your pro preaches.
 
Hi guys. My pro put the same shafts in my wedges as my irons, gave me shafts that were an inch longer and made them really upright again like my irons.

Today I learnt that I should have a softer shaft to give better feel currently project X5.5 should probably be True Temper S300/S200, even though I'm tall doesn't mean I should automatically get longer shafts in the wedges and if I did only 0.5 inches, and that lie angle is less important in a wedge as when you open the face you negate that anyway. To top it all off Vokeys might not even be the right wedge for me.

To have my existing ones changed will cost £40 so my thinking is to buy new wedges instead of a driver, get properly fitted for them and keep the two I have and when the new ones die get the heads swapped over.

The real kick in the teeth is the misplaced faith but as I said you lives and learns.
 
Hi Tiger

Am interested in this - I've just had my first round on a long course and struggled a bit with the driver. I played 9 holes, 7 of which were driver length: 4 straight but shooting along the ground, 1 straight up in the air and only 150 yards, one horrid slice and 1 properly flighted, good distance 230yarder.

I am beginning to think that the three wood might be a better option which I am getting used to woods not irons... I have a a driver, 3, 5 & 7 woods (donated by a friend, but not bad quality) so plenty to chose from.

Do you need a more mature swing for a driver than a three wood, do you think?

Cheers
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I've always planned on working my way slowly up to the big dog. Today confirmed that is the right course of action. Personally I'd groove your swing with lessons and the fairway woods and when you get consistent move onto the big dog. It's what I intend to do.
 
Hi guys. My pro put the same shafts in my wedges as my irons, gave me shafts that were an inch longer and made them really upright again like my irons.

Today I learnt that I should have a softer shaft to give better feel currently project X5.5 should probably be True Temper S300/S200, even though I'm tall doesn't mean I should automatically get longer shafts in the wedges and if I did only 0.5 inches, and that lie angle is less important in a wedge as when you open the face you negate that anyway. To top it all off Vokeys might not even be the right wedge for me.

To have my existing ones changed will cost £40 so my thinking is to buy new wedges instead of a driver, get properly fitted for them and keep the two I have and when the new ones die get the heads swapped over.

The real kick in the teeth is the misplaced faith but as I said you lives and learns.
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I've got exactly the same shaft and lie angle in my wedges and irons. It might not be the right thing to do but it won't ruin your game.
 
Hi guys. My pro put the same shafts in my wedges as my irons, gave me shafts that were an inch longer and made them really upright again like my irons.

Today I learnt that I should have a softer shaft to give better feel currently project X5.5 should probably be True Temper S300/S200, even though I'm tall doesn't mean I should automatically get longer shafts in the wedges and if I did only 0.5 inches, and that lie angle is less important in a wedge as when you open the face you negate that anyway. To top it all off Vokeys might not even be the right wedge for me.

To have my existing ones changed will cost £40 so my thinking is to buy new wedges instead of a driver, get properly fitted for them and keep the two I have and when the new ones die get the heads swapped over.

The real kick in the teeth is the misplaced faith but as I said you lives and learns.
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I think you are getting into all this way too much. I have 1/2" longer clubs 1 degree up and *when* my wedges get re-gripped I have exactly the same spec retrofitted (as if were) to the wedge.

I think all the shaft talk is bonkers, I really do. I don't see that your original pro was wrong; maybe an inch was a little excessive, but hey, if you are tall and need an inch it probably still applies to wedges. As for lie business, I always get mine checked to have the same as my irons (periodically) so to suggest that it isn't neccessary because of opening the face etc. is also a bit dubious.

I all honesty, I can't see why there should be an issue with the type of wedge (Vokey) the shaft (any decent bit off kit) and having them longer and adjusted for lie.
If you are using your wedges for full shots, then I think you should stick with what you have and re-think it all sometime else down then line.
 
Today I learnt that I should have a softer shaft to give better feel currently project X5.5 should probably be True Temper S300/S200, even though I'm tall doesn't mean I should automatically get longer shafts in the wedges and if I did only 0.5 inches, and that lie angle is less important in a wedge as when you open the face you negate that anyway. To top it all off Vokeys might not even be the right wedge for me.
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I may well be wrong here but I had always understood that wedges should have stiffer shafts and not softer? I'm also extremely surprised with the comment that Vokeys might not be the right wedge for you. On what basis, did he say that?

Vokeys are hugely respected clubs and very well thought of.

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than I will come along to give you more authoritative advice. ;)
 
Argh lost my reply. Ping because their chap Morgan was so incredibly helpful and I am a G-Man

as for wedges and being too technical about kit. I'm going for a wedge fitting as I plan to buy a 60 anyway. I'll see what they say before making any other kit decisions.

Apart from checking my wedges I'll be focussing solely on playing and improving my scores and technique.
 
I was always under the impression that wedges have a slightly stiffer flex. That being said I think IMO you are getting way too technical and should just be concentrating on playing golf, not worrying about the other stuff just yet, as your swing will change dramatically over the next year or two and the kit you have now might not work just as well.
 
My ping wedges are the same length and lie as my irons. The shafts are stock ping shafts but the wedge ones are designed for wedges. I'll be changing the 60deg cleveland for a ping tour-w fairly shortly and will have that fitted the same as all the others.

I'm no expert but I understand wedge shafts are different but as was said above, it won't ruin your game.

I agree you're getting too involved and should just concentrate on improving your swing but it's been said a million times before and you won't change so you gotta do what you think is best for you and good luck to you. But what I will say is I got down to 14 before i got a custom fit set and I didn't have the feintest idea about lie angles or shaft flex, I just bought them and played. Your club spec isn't going to get your handicap down, the only thing that will do that is a solid swing and in my humble opinion, the hour or so you spent talking clubs at nevada bob's would have been better spent hitting balls with the ones you've got.
 
Argh lost my reply. Ping because their chap Morgan was so incredibly helpful and I am a G-Man

as for wedges and being too technical about kit. I'm going for a wedge fitting as I plan to buy a 60 anyway. I'll see what they say before making any other kit decisions.

Apart from checking my wedges I'll be focussing solely on playing and improving my scores and technique.
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I'd think long and hard before adding a 60 degree wedge. Not the easiest to hit and very, very easy to mess up your card with one. Thin, fat, you name it. A 60 degree wedge will do 'em all! :(
 
LMAO. I suppose because all you see is my questions about kit and equipment you imagine I spend all day every day poring over what my next purchase should be.

I do practice at least three times a week (four if I'm lucky) and play 18. All the technical stuff is my pros fault. When I had my first lesson I asked what clubs I should get and he said I needed to be custom fit, primarily because of my height.

When I wanted a fairway I sought his advice on what to get. He suggested the axivcore shaft.

And the only reason I'm looking for a 60 this year is because of the rule change. I'm expecting it to take me a long time to master. And that's when a different pro asked me why I wanted the same shaft as my irons which then got me questioning every recommendation to that point.

At the end of the day I know the problems with my game lie off the tee. I lose about 10-15 shots a round on par 4's & 5's going OoB or into gorse. I practice my short game regularly but just can't get down the range often enough. Working in London and having a young son puts pay to that.

What I will say is what's wrong with wanting to better understand your equipment? Or wanting to work on difficult techniques? At the end of the day I just want to get better and I promise I really understand that the best way to do that is practice and play as much ad possible. :D
 
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