People on Committees at Golf Clubs- Above their station in life!

[3offTheTee]

Do you think people change once they reach the heights of a committee member?

During the winter months we paly an internal Comp with about 20 each week for a Cup and have a dinner at the end of year with best 6 scores to count. Our own rules state correctly no practicing on the course.

Our Captain has joined our Group this year and there was a 2 ball behind who werhiting a couple of balls. Totally wrong. After about 3 holes he marched over gave them the verbals and continued with his game. The problem was he only had 9 Stableford points on the back 9.

Excluding this instance how do you think it affects people once they become more involved with The Golf Club/

 

[Billysboots]

Oh dear, here we go again - another attempt to have a go at those who, on the whole, do tireless work behind the scenes so that everyone else can just turn up and play golf.

Have you ever served on your golf club's committee? If not, you may not realise that, if they are anything like ours, they give up at least one evening a week along with hours at home trying to make things better for you.

Committee members are human beings and as such may make mistakes when it comes to inter-personal skills, but how about supporting them rather than nit picking?

 

[StrangelyBrown]

I don't quite follow, 3oTT...

It depends on how the captain said it to the guys. If it was a casual 'hey guys, practicing on the course isn't allowed, so if you pick those extra balls up now nothing more will be said', then it's fair enough.

If you're saying that he had a proper shouting match at them because he was having a poor round then it probably isn't fair enough.

I don't think being on the committee should/would effect a person's behaviour.

 

[bigslice]

nearly spilled my brandy over The Times reading this. I havent changed, yours sincerely Bigslice Vice-Captain

 

[Stub]

No experience of Golf Club committees other than as a club member rather than committee member, but had many years on Yacht Club committees. My experience was that you soon realise that 100% of the club administration and management is undertaken by less than 5% of the membership, while the other 95% provide criticism (sometimes constructive) and accept that they just want the facility without the hassle of getting involved in running the club. I suspect the same is probably true of golf clubs.

In my experience most people who volunteer for club committees soon realise it is a lot of effort in return for no more than the satisfaction of doing something to assist a club they enjoy. When someone comes along who 'gets above themselves' or is joining a committee simply for self aggrandisement one of two things usually occurs. Either other committee members or club officers take them to one side to give them some advice, or alternatively they quickly realise that any perceived increase in their status is more than offset by the volume of work required and they soon disappear again.

I have to say that my experience of club officers at the club I joined last August has been nothing but positive and I think my 95/5% split mentioned above applies.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I think that it is true that a FEW people view being on the committee as a social status indicator, but I think these are in a small minoriry

Most people do it for nothing, except the love of the game, lets face it, Handicap Secretary can be a bit of a thankless task.

And whats better, the captain having a word with the 2 ball, or the 2 ball being DQ'd afterwards

Fragger

 

[Billysboots]

I don't quite follow, 3oTT...

No, I still don't get it either!

The OP states that what the group behind were doing was "totally wrong", but then complains that the Captain did something about it!

Are you saying he was wrong to confront these players, 3OTT, or merely wrong in the way he went about it?

 

[3offTheTee]

No, I still don't get it either!

The OP states that what the group behind were doing was "totally wrong", but then complains that the Captain did something about it!

Are you saying he was wrong to confront these players, 3OTT, or merely wrong in the way he went about it?

Fair comments in what you say. I gave an example and the way he said it to the 2 ball was terse and inappropiate. Additionally he said there was no way he was going to let them through. Yes I have been on Committees many times boht at Golf/Tennis and cricket.

The question I merely wanted to ask was if people get on a committee do they think they are better than than what they are perceived?

 

[3offTheTee]

Oh dear, here we go again - another attempt to have a go at those who, on the whole, do tireless work behind the scenes so that everyone else can just turn up and play golf.

Have you ever served on your golf club's committee? If not, you may not realise that, if they are anything like ours, they give up at least one evening a week along with hours at home trying to make things better for you.

Committee members are human beings and as such may make mistakes when it comes to inter-personal skills, but how about supporting them rather than nit picking?

Yes I have been on many committees and appreciate the extremely hard work they carry out. Perhaps the example I gave was not ideal but all I did was ask the question

 

[AmandaJR]

The question I merely wanted to ask was if people get on a committee do they think they are better than than what they are perceived?

I join ours on 1st April so I'll let you know

 

[Imurg]

I join ours on 1st April so I'll let you know

An appropriate date....?:rofl:

 

[Billysboots]

The question I merely wanted to ask was if people get on a committee do they think they are better than than what they are perceived?

No. Although I accept there will be exceptions to the rule, as there are in all walks of life.

 

[AmandaJR]

An appropriate date....?:rofl:

Ha ha ha - probably!

 

[StrangelyBrown]

No. Although I accept there will be exceptions to the rule, as there are in all walks of life.

Tosspots will be tosspots no matter what they do in life.

 

[bladeplayer]

I think some are missing the point of the OP here , its great people give of their time & effort to work in the club & nowhere here does the OP question or be little that effort , he is correct in my opinion & if we al stop & think about it many of us will see or know ordinary members that got on the committe & changed their attitude to other ORDINARY members..
ive seen it , but it is more of a reflection on the person than the status in the club , there are people who gladly give of their time & they are brilliant & the club is all the better for their presence ,

then there are the ones who strive for the status of been on the golf club committe . the last club i was at for years 2 guys in particular changed dramaticaly when they got on the committe , it was like all of a sudden they were better than everyone else they had been equal with the year before , they werent intrested in the membere they wanted & strived to be in charge & the decision makers ..

 

[Hobbit]

Fair comments in what you say. I gave an example and the way he said it to the 2 ball was terse and inappropiate. Additionally he said there was no way he was going to let them through. Yes I have been on Committees many times boht at Golf/Tennis and cricket.

The question I merely wanted to ask was if people get on a committee do they think they are better than than what they are perceived?

So if you've been on committee you probably already know the answer. There are the odd ones who probably lack the required skills and this is manifested in the way they interact, and no doubt the odd one that thinks that because they've got on committee...

In all honesty I find it a sad question, or badly worded, and perhaps cynically an attempt at Trolling for a reaction.

I don't feel superior when I get up at 4am to help the Greens staff... not bad for an old fat ex-Captain.

 

[AmandaJR]

I think some are missing the point of the OP here , its great people give of their time & effort to work in the club & nowhere here does the OP question or be little that effort , he is correct in my opinion & if we al stop & think about it many of us will see or know ordinary members that got on the committe & changed their attitude to other ORDINARY members..
ive seen it , but it is more of a reflection on the person than the status in the club , there are people who gladly give of their time & they are brilliant & the club is all the better for their presence ,

then there are the ones who strive for the status of been on the golf club committe . the last club i was at for years 2 guys in particular changed dramaticaly when they got on the committe , it was like all of a sudden they were better than everyone else they had been equal with the year before , they werent intrested in the membere they wanted & strived to be in charge & the decision makers ..

Tosspots will be tosspots no matter what they do in life.

 

[bladeplayer]

Tosspots will be tosspots no matter what they do in life.

100% agree

 

[StrangelyBrown]

Tosspots will be tosspots no matter what they do in life.

Is there an echo in here?

 

[Fyldewhite]

As a long time committee member I'd turn it around a bit. If you saw people doing stuff they shouldn't on the course or in the clubhouse and the Captain, or any committee member simply ignored the situation, what would you think of them then?
Of course attitudes change, you are suddenly in a position where you are expected to behave differently by the majority of members. you have responsibility and as many have said above are doing it on the whole because you love the club and want to see it do well.
That said, I have seen the situation where common sense goes out of the window and committee members can't wait to dive in and "sort things out" when there's no need, often in an officious OTT way. That's just the way some people are I'm afraid but most are just normal chaps trying to help the club.