Patrick Reed
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Whether he identified the ball or not, it's clear that the ball went in the first tree. I'm not sure what angle people are watching that suggests otherwise. That Sky link even shows it in slow motion for all to see - there's no way the ball, on that trajectory, goes into any of the further two trees.
I really hope Rory wins for the mental health of some on here, I’m not sure I could handle seeing people lose their ? should Reed win ?
I think Mr Reed needs to lose some - he appears to be rather over full of it.
Bloody cameraman, did that go in the water?
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Reed isn't alone in having a history of these shenanigans. Kuchar has a couple, his best being the drive that landed and spun back into its own pitch mark. Mickelson in Myakoba getting relief from a sprinkler that interfered with his swing. He was in shrubbery so deep and dense that the camera couldn't pick him out. He couldn't swing because of the density, but if he could have the sprinkler would have interfered with it.
My favourite is Charl Schwartzel asking for relief from a sprinkler which was at least 2 feet in front of his ball. He claimed that he could possibly catch it during the swing and potentially injure himself. By coincidence, he had a dreadful lie and relief would have allowed him to drop on the fairway.
It was total guff. The watching world, including the referee could see that there was no case for relief. Schwartzel was practically begging the ref to agree with him, which would of course have legitimised the decision, but to his credit the ref stood his ground. He just kept on repeating that if Schartzel was absolutely sure of his case then he should go ahead and take relief.
He played as it lay. He knew that without the protection of the referee's agreement he would come under serious, and deserved, scrutiny after the round.
My favourite is Charl Schwartzel asking for relief from a sprinkler which was at least 2 feet in front of his ball. He claimed that he could possibly catch it during the swing and potentially injure himself. By coincidence, he had a dreadful lie and relief would have allowed him to drop on the fairway.
It was total guff. The watching world, including the referee could see that there was no case for relief. Schwartzel was practically begging the ref to agree with him, which would of course have legitimised the decision, but to his credit the ref stood his ground. He just kept on repeating that if Schartzel was absolutely sure of his case then he should go ahead and take relief.
He played as it lay. He knew that without the protection of the referee's agreement he would come under serious, and deserved, scrutiny after the round.
Not sure what is worse. The well known Rory fanboys coming on to gloat or a cheat in Reed winning
Yes the ref agreed with Reed but we don't know if Reed told the truth. He looked into the tree with binoculars and spotted a ball.
"See that ball there with a line on it? That's my ball"
"OK Patrick, I'm happy if you are"
What he should have done is asked to see another ball out of Reed's bag to compare but who is going to question a player's integrity?
"See that ball there with a line on it? That's my ball"
"OK Patrick, I'm happy if you are"
What he should have done is asked to see another ball out of Reed's bag to compare but who is going to question a player's integrity?
Except he didn't, the referee agreed he could see the marking that Reed was describing (Reed already having looked at it himself), and Reed said "it looks like" his ball, only altering that statement after the referee told him he had to be certain.
Depends on the player?
1. The ref asked if Reed could identify his own distinctive marking.
2. Reed just described the black alignment arrow on a Pro V1.
3. The ref confirmed he could see the arrow.
Essentially the ref is trusting the integrity of the golfer when he confirms that it's his ball. Golf works differently from many other sports in that it relies on the integrity of the the player. If a player is prepared to lie he will get away with it, but I'm happy for this as it works 99% of the time. This isn't football.
2. Reed just described the black alignment arrow on a Pro V1.
3. The ref confirmed he could see the arrow.
Essentially the ref is trusting the integrity of the golfer when he confirms that it's his ball. Golf works differently from many other sports in that it relies on the integrity of the the player. If a player is prepared to lie he will get away with it, but I'm happy for this as it works 99% of the time. This isn't football.
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