Pairs matchplay Handicaps

[Bdill93]

Hi all,

What are the allowances for pairs matchplay handicaps and how does it work exactly please?

Data as follows if anyone wants it:

B Dill - 15.2 - 16 CH
Dad - 17.9 - 19 CH

Opponent 1 - 12.0 - 13 CH
Opponent 2 - 19.6 - 21 CH

Match coming on Sunday and want to ensure I calculate the handicaps of sides correctly!

Thanks in advance

Ben

 

[chellie]

What do the rules of the competition say?

 

[Bdill93]

What do the rules of the competition say?

I cant find them hence my query.

 

[Neilds]

4BBB or Foursomes?

 

[Bdill93]

4BBB or Foursomes?

Betterball matchplay

 

[chellie]

I cant find them hence my query.

Not good that they aren't readily available. Could cause all sorts of issues.

It could be 90% of Course Handicap with full difference from the lowest handicap.

 

[Neilds]

Hi all,

What are the allowances for pairs matchplay handicaps and how does it work exactly please?

Data as follows if anyone wants it:

B Dill - 15.2 - 16 CH
Dad - 17.9 - 19 CH

Opponent 1 - 12.0 - 13 CH
Opponent 2 - 19.6 - 21 CH

Match coming on Sunday and want to ensure I calculate the handicaps of sides correctly!

Thanks in advance

Ben

90% of each is:
you - 14
Dad - 17

Opp1 - 12
Opp2 - 19

All players get shots off Opp1

you - 2
Dad - 5

Opp1 - 0
Opp2 - 7

 

[Bdill93]

90% of each is:
you - 14
Dad - 17

Opp1 - 12
Opp2 - 19

All players get shots off Opp1

you - 2
Dad - 5

Opp1 - 0
Opp2 - 7

Thanks Neilds!

 

[CountLippe]

Basically its flipped from the old format which 90% of the difference from the low player.

 

[tobybarker]

Unless in Scotland, I believe

 

[wjemather]

Unless in Scotland, I believe

The only difference in Scotland is the use of unrounded Course Handicaps in the Playing Handicap calculation. Strokes received are still full difference in Playing Handicaps from the lowest.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Basically its flipped from the old format which 90% of the difference from the low player.

My understanding is that the new way is that for all formats we always calculate PHs using the % defined for the format before working out shots given/received.

 

[Old Skier]

Not good that they aren't readily available. Could cause all sorts of issues.

It could be 90% of Course Handicap with full difference from the lowest handicap.

Am I misunderstanding something here, but the rules for handicap allowances are laid down in official WHS/CONGU documentation.

 

[chellie]

Am I misunderstanding something here, but the rules for handicap allowances are laid down in official WHS/CONGU documentation.

My point was that it should be stated in the rules of the club competition. Therefore easy to find.

 

[Deleted member 30522]

Unless in Scotland, I believe

No exactly the same for 4BBB

 

[Deleted member 30522]

Not good that they aren't readily available. Could cause all sorts of issues.

It could be 90% of Course Handicap with full difference from the lowest handicap.

Very readily available

 

[chellie]

Very readily available
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Obviously wasn't for the OP

As I said in post #14 just have it in the rules of the competition.

 

[Deleted member 30522]

Obviously wasn't for the OP

As I said in post #14 just have it in the rules of the competition.

Yup. We've been very specific on matchplay handicaps as the WHS has caused so much confusion in general, folks really don't know what's going on. Poor from the club.

 

[nickjdavis]

I still know of groups in their informal little get togethers who use the old 90% of the difference method when playing 4BBB because they stubbornly believe that the old and new methods deliver exactly the same results in all cases.

 

[Swango1980]

I still know of groups in their informal little get togethers who use the old 90% of the difference method when playing 4BBB because they stubbornly believe that the old and new methods deliver exactly the same results in all cases.

That is easy to resolve. Just let them continue to do what they do. And, when their opponents do it the correct way, and on that occasion the final outcome is different, then they will be proved wrong without any doubt.