Our NHS are amazing

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As you all know myself and my wife have just had a lovely baby but it was far from easy

Cutting a long story short she needed a lot of suppprt and nights in hospital after issues with the birth

But the one thing that stood out throughout the whole time we were there was the amazing support from the staff in the hospital- they were caring , professional and kept us at ease , words can't express how grateful i was and my thanks will always go to the doctors , nurses. The one thing that stood out was the diverse nationalities of each one of the them. From east European to Asian to African and British - all working today as a wonderful team to make sure they do the very best they can.

Had a chat to the one of the midwifes who was fron India and was just the best - she was saying they struggle to get people to go to uni to become midwifes so they recruit from abroad.

Now on one night whilst everyone was asleep I just thought - what's going to happen after Brexit - it was clear that multiple EU nationals were a part of a working team , I now worry that team will struggle when EU nationals have to go through hoops to work in our NHS - and that includes the cleaning and catering staff.

I will look forward to all the extra money pouring into the NHS when we do leave the EU - they will need it
 
Well phil, my niece and fraggers daughter are training to be midwives so who knows in couple of years time they may well be there for no2,3 or 4 baby.😳

Hope the the nappy changing is goin well
 
My wife wanted to be a midwife but couldn't get on the training course because they only took a dozen or so a year from the hundreds that completed nurses training.

This was ~15 years ago.
 
i think you should rephrase this post "midwifes are amazing" they are cut from a different cloth all together. the birth of my daughter is the only positive experience i have with the nhs.
 
hovis said:
i think you should rephrase this post "midwifes are amazing" they are cut from a different cloth all together. the birth of my daughter is the only positive experience i have with the nhs.
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Not exactly sure what you're getting at - however my wife is a qualified midwife (not practicing) and clinical nurse specialist. She is cut from the same cloth as herself :)

It's a pity your experience of the NHS has been so poor (other than childbirth). I do hope you do not condemn it based simply on difficult times you may well have had with it - but appreciate that - where there is great and good - there will often - if not always - be poor and bad. The nature of such a beast as the NHS.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
As you all know myself and my wife have just had a lovely baby but it was far from easy

Cutting a long story short she needed a lot of suppprt and nights in hospital after issues with the birth

But the one thing that stood out throughout the whole time we were there was the amazing support from the staff in the hospital- they were caring , professional and kept us at ease , words can't express how grateful i was and my thanks will always go to the doctors , nurses. The one thing that stood out was the diverse nationalities of each one of the them. From east European to Asian to African and British - all working today as a wonderful team to make sure they do the very best they can.

Had a chat to the one of the midwifes who was fron India and was just the best - she was saying they struggle to get people to go to uni to become midwifes so they recruit from abroad.

Now on one night whilst everyone was asleep I just thought - what's going to happen after Brexit - it was clear that multiple EU nationals were a part of a working team , I now worry that team will struggle when EU nationals have to go through hoops to work in our NHS - and that includes the cleaning and catering staff.

I will look forward to all the extra money pouring into the NHS when we do leave the EU - they will need it
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I heard Jeremy Hunt saying at the weekend (on Andrew Marr?) how he hopes for a good Brexit deal because otherwise there will be problems for the NHS in respect of funding. I am wondering whether he is positioning himself with his constituents (who were massively Remain) showing his own colours as a Remainer, and whether he is expecting a difficult or no deal and therefore setting up a scapegoat for NHS funding issues. I do hope not. Here's hoping for the very best deal...so that the NHS can get the funding it needs.
 
Region3 said:
My wife wanted to be a midwife but couldn't get on the training course because they only took a dozen or so a year from the hundreds that completed nurses training.

This was ~15 years ago.
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You don;t go into midwifery that way these days. My wife was an RGN before training to be a midwife. These days you don't do nursing first - you go straight into a midwifery degree (or at least that's how I understand it)
 
hovis said:
i think you should rephrase this post "midwifes are amazing" they are cut from a different cloth all together. the birth of my daughter is the only positive experience i have with the nhs.
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Why when it was more than the midwife'S ? - the doctors , the surgeon , the anethisit ( sp ) , the nursery nurses , the nurses , the helpers all played a big part in looking after my wife and baby
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Not exactly sure what you're getting at - however my wife is a qualified midwife (not practicing) and clinical nurse specialist. She is cut from the same cloth as herself :)

It's a pity your experience of the NHS has been so poor (other than childbirth). I do hope you do not condemn it based simply on difficult times you may well have had with it - but appreciate that - where there is great and good - there will often - if not always - be poor and bad. The nature of such a beast as the NHS.
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my last experience of the nhs was so bad i actually signed up to buppa from the hospital bed. its ranged from telling and treating my dad for lung caner when he had pneumonia and putting my 2 year old daughters arm in full cast to be told the next day they mixed up the x-ray with another girl and her arm wasn't broken(imagine the little girl that went home without a cast) that's just a few examples i have
 
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It's all about perspective, we had major issues at the birth of our second, the midwife was struck off and we successfully sued the hospital (we would rather have had no issues than some cash).

To add most of our experiences with the NHS have been good however you never want to have a really bad one believe me.

As to worries about staffing. I am confused, can we not continue to take in the staff we need from country's we need to. We can choose who we let in and why. If we continue to need nurses etc well we let them in can't we.

I don't think most are saying we don't want any immigration just the right immigration..
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
Why when it was more than the midwife'S ? - the doctors , the surgeon , the anethisit ( sp ) , the nursery nurses , the nurses , the helpers all played a big part in looking after my wife and baby
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personally the reason i why i think child birth is so good with the nhs is because its an area where you won't put up with any crap. i bet you'd be willing to sit in pain waiting for painkillers if it was yourself but how would you have reacted if they said your partner had to deal with the pain and wait? emotions are already high when it comes to child birth. i challenge any doctor not to give a woman in labour ANYTHING she wants
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
It's a pity your experience of the NHS has been so poor (other than childbirth). I do hope you do not condemn it based simply on difficult times you may well have had with it - but appreciate that - where there is great and good - there will often - if not always - be poor and bad. The nature of such a beast as the NHS.
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Point me in he direction where LP said his experience of the NHS was poor?
 
Reemul said:
It's all about perspective, we had major issues at the birth of our second, the midwife was struck off and we successfully sued the hospital (we would rather have had no issues than some cash).

To add most of our experiences with the NHS have been good however you never want to have a really bad one believe me.

As to worries about staffing. I am confused, can we not continue to take in the staff we need from country's we need to. We can choose who we let in and why. If we continue to need nurses etc well we let them in can't we.

I don't think most are saying we don't want any immigration just the right immigration..
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Exactly, if we are short of skill sets then we bring those skills in from anywhere that has them, but them we need to identify those jobs and put some cash under getting people trained into them for the future.

what I don't agree with though is bringing in labour (unskilled) only such as cleaners etc, OK I know some are going to say nobody else will do it, well if that's the case stop the benefits of those that are fit and able and simply refuse to work and want to cherry pick, simples.

Hope mother and baby is well.
 
Fish said:
Exactly, if we are short of skill sets then we bring those skills in from anywhere that has them, but them we need to identify those jobs and put some cash under getting people trained into them for the future.

what I don't agree with though is bringing in labour (unskilled) only such as cleaners etc, OK I know some are going to say nobody else will do it, well if that's the case stop the benefits of those that are fit and able and simply refuse to work and want to cherry pick, simples.

Hope mother and baby is well.
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👍

Have we got a name yet phil for the nipper.
 
hovis said:
personally the reason i why i think child birth is so good with the nhs is because its an area where you won't put up with any crap. i bet you'd be willing to sit in pain waiting for painkillers if it was yourself but how would you have reacted if they said your partner had to deal with the pain and wait? emotions are already high when it comes to child birth. i challenge any doctor not to give a woman in labour ANYTHING she wants
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It is a pity that of my wife's cohort of 12 midwives - only one is still practicing and she is quitting because she is told she is 'too slow' - i.e. she spends too long with each mother pre-natally and with mother and child post-natally - when actually she is just spending the time necessary to deliver the care she was trained to deliver - and used to deliver - and she is sick of it. Shame.
 
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