ONE PLANE OR TWO PLANE SWING

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I am not into all this teaching guru stuff, I am the old school ball to hole type fella ;)
 

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I know what you mean. Its hard to keep a swing on plane up and down the line. Im now picking mine up steep then bringing it back down inside the line a bit more now. Picking it up flat and dropping back down steep, makes it very hard to get a draw shot or much consistency, especially with a driver, its what creates most slices I should imagine.

check this out by the way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZecViQxUwss
 

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I try to swing on a plane but I have a nasty habit of coming over the top on the downswing.
Really is the main problem in my game. Anybody got any suggestions?I Will try and video my swing some time next week and put it up
 

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I try to swing on a plane but I have a nasty habit of coming over the top on the downswing.
Really is the main problem in my game. Anybody got any suggestions?I Will try and video my swing some time next week and put it up
Pick the club up steeper on yuor backswing. and also on your downswing keep you head just behind the ball at impact. try that. I had to do the same thing. i explain in more detail if you want. its probably the hardest swing change!!
 

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htl, the next time you go to the range place the basket you get the balls in a clubhead width on the ouside of the ball, then just hit the ball, you will never come over the top, great drill if you ever get the dreaded s****s
 

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I think Tiger changed to 1 plane a a couple years back when he started working with his current coach... looks like it's working.

I think most folk have a 2 plane swing though.
 

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I try to swing on a plane but I have a nasty habit of coming over the top on the downswing.
Really is the main problem in my game. Anybody got any suggestions?I Will try and video my swing some time next week and put it up

If you're coming over the top its likely you're starting your downswing with your shoulders instead of your lower body.

it could also be due to having the arms above the shoulder plane on the backswing. This is fine, but you'll need a shallowing out move to let them come back down on plane.
 

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I try to swing on a plane but I have a nasty habit of coming over the top on the downswing.
Really is the main problem in my game. Anybody got any suggestions?I Will try and video my swing some time next week and put it up

One thing to try mate. Make a 3/4 swing making sure you keep your right elbow tight to your right side, place a towel under your arm pit if you think this might help. Also think about starting the down swing with the big muscles in your core and then letting the arms follow. Works for me, so maybe worth a try.
 

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Thanks guys for all your advice, can see I'm going to be busy over the next few weeks.
I have been trying to start my swing with my abs and hip flexors and a slight down motion with my arms to whip the club through, will keep persevering.
 

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One thing to try mate, think about starting the down swing with the big muscles in your core

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I didn't notice you in the showers the other day.....
 

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Madandra....two plane....

The one plane theory is all very well.....can anyone (other than drilled-to-death pros, and GASP, who's a golf god) really claim to do this.....

It's a bit tenuous, Ben Hogan visited me in my sleep last night and even he can't get the gist...so he says??

Don't really care either way, I'd like to go up and down the same plane if I could, I guess.

Don't ask Jim...he'll put you in that phone box with the snake.

Dave
 

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Make a 3/4 swing making sure you keep your right elbow tight to your right side, place a towel under your arm pit if you think this might help. Also think about starting the down swing with the big muscles in your core and then letting the arms follow. Works for me, so maybe worth a try.

Works for you, works for me, should be a compulsory warm up or pitching drill. Well said.

Dave
 

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Madandra....two plane....

The one plane theory is all very well.....can anyone (other than drilled-to-death pros, and GASP, who's a golf god) really claim to do this.....

It's a bit tenuous, Ben Hogan visited me in my sleep last night and even he can't get the gist...so he says??

Don't really care either way, I'd like to go up and down the same plane if I could, I guess.

Don't ask Jim...he'll put you in that phone box with the snake.

Dave

Um, actually, this is the most biomechanically sound way to swing. Pick up an axe and start chopping and tell me if you lift the axe above your head. you swing it around your body.

The only reason the upright swing became fashionable was the Nicklaus factor. It's to blame for more bad backs that anything else in golf. All that leg drive and reverse C positioning? Ouch!

Saying that, I have no real preference and love the look of a two plane swing well executed. As long as you can repeat it and it doesn't hurt it's fine by me, but a rotary/one plane swing is biomechanically better for us.
 
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I try to swing on a plane but I have a nasty habit of coming over the top on the downswing.
Really is the main problem in my game. Anybody got any suggestions?I Will try and video my swing some time next week and put it up

A lot of us do this , some don't realise they're doing it. A good mental tip I read for this is when you are at the top of the backswing think of being a 'church bell ringer' - sounds daft but think about it... try it, you would pull the bell cord straight down close to your side, not throw your right shoulder out and you would also start down slowly and speed up, not quick from the start which is often the reason for casting.
 
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