One for the H'Cap\Comp Secretaries

[HawkeyeMS]

If your club requires players to enter their scores on a computer, how many of the scores do you check against what is actually on the cards. I was recently told by our h'cap secretary that he only checks 10% of the cards against the computer. I am assuming he checks the leading scores and a random selection of others.

Is this normal procedure or would you normally expect all cards to be checked?

 

[AmandaJR]

I asked the question of the comps sec at our club (men's section) as previous club didn't have the PSI terminal system. He said he check the leading scores and gernally that's it. I think he checks ALL cards for 2 signatures and handicap details plus that they have been entered on the terminal...

I was surprised as expected they were all checked and therefore never quite understood what role the terminal played apart from giving an estimated CSS and early leaderboard.

 

[Deleted member 17920]

Both clubs I am a member off check all the cards as their is always some disqualification's for wrong scores and not signing cards and its surprising how many golfers don't put a handicap on a card.

 

[cookelad]

All we used to do was to check the cards of those collecting prizes for normal 1 round comps. For the club championship, winter league etc we'd check all the cards, scores and signatures.

 

[MadAdey]

I think that it is normal for clubs to check all winning cards and then a certain percentage of the rest. At the end of the day the person reading the cards normally has a full time job alongside his commitments to the club. At my old place you had over 200 people playing in most comps, imagine how long that would take to go through every card stableford card with a fine tooth comb. You could be there for a week doing it.

 

[sawtooth]

We have a player entry option with handicapmaster but I used it only once as an experiment. On that occasion there were only about 25 cards to check so I did them all. I think with bigger fields it would be sensible to just check the leading cards and a random sample.

 

[Imurg]

I can understand that it could take a long time but surely every card should be checked.
CSS is worked out by the %age making buffer. As that number is used to adjust handicaps surely you have to confident every card is right..? Just 1 card being wrongly input could affect CSS and thereby any handicap increases or decreases..

 

[HawkeyeMS]

I can understand that it could take a long time but surely every card should be checked.
CSS is worked out by the %age making buffer. As that number is used to adjust handicaps surely you have to confident every card is right..? Just 1 card being wrongly input could affect CSS and thereby any handicap increases or decreases..

This is my immediate thought. Time consuming yes, but for the sake accuracy and integrity I would think you would need to check every card.

I always thought the computer was to save the secretary the time of having to enter the scores before uploading to HDID etc but had always assumed the cards were all checked. It seems to make a mockery of having to fill the card out correctly if the information in the computer is used for handicapping unchecked.

 

[MadAdey]

If you think about how long it takes to check a Stableford card. You have to check the score then work out if someone has a shot, then work out what the net score was and check the points are correct, then you have to add up those points do it again for the back 9 then add the 2 scores together. Then you have to check it against the computer to make sure that it has been entered correctly. You would probably get through 10 an hour. So at my place where you could have in excess of 200 cards to do your are looking at about 20 hours plus of work to do, if you checked every single card.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

If you think about how long it takes to check a Stableford card. You have to check the score then work out if someone has a shot, then work out what the net score was and check the points are correct, then you have to add up those points do it again for the back 9 then add the 2 scores together. Then you have to check it against the computer to make sure that it has been entered correctly. You would probably get through 10 an hour. So at my place where you could have in excess of 200 cards to do your are looking at about 20 hours plus of work to do, if you checked every single card.

No you don't, you just have to check the gross scores are correct for each hole, as long as those are right, the computer would work out everything else.