Non Qualfiying Scores from Away Clubs

[Deleted member 15344]

Just received an Email from EGU that from Jan 1st all members are requested to let the HC committee know of any non qualifying scores they have at away courses so that they can be used for the Annual Review ?!

There is also forms for clubs hosting Open comps to send back scores ?! I don't think they realise how much work it all entails

 

[Fish]

I thought general play or any non-qualifying scores play no part in handicap assessments, especially as many Opens home or away are rarely full handicap? So I don't understand why they want them? Is this a means to identify those playing away more in comps but protecting handicaps by playing very few at their home clubs, if it is, then surely that should be welcomed?

 

[Imurg]

Just received an Email from EGU that from Jan 1st all members are requested to let the HC committee know of any non qualifying scores they have at away courses so that they can be used for the Annual Review ?!

Oh yeah, I can that happening.
"Excuse me Mr Handicap Sec, I played at my mates gaff yesterday and scored 44 points"...

How many are going to do that...?

 

[chrisd]

I certainly would put mine in. I was always miffed that my H4H winning score at West Hill wasn't accepted by my golf committee

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I certainly would put mine in. I was always miffed that my H4H winning score at West Hill wasn't accepted by my golf committee

They still don't get accepted to go against your HC so you won't get a cut - they will just be used during the AR

Them not accepting your H4H was correct

http://www.englandgolf.org/shared/get-file.ashx?id=26757&itemtype=document

 

[HomerJSimpson]

The 4th paragraph seems to indicate that our regular roll ups are to be included. Why for heaven sakes? It's a social game amongst mates and certainly in our weekend roll ups the banter is far more important than the scores. Why make these qualifiers?

 

[Old Skier]

Oh yeah, I can that happening.
"Excuse me Mr Handicap Sec, I played at my mates gaff yesterday and scored 44 points"...

How many are going to do that...?

Not for social golf. Will be useful evidence during annual review however as some clubs cannot be bothered to add CDH No to their systems in open qualifiers there are going to be issues.

 

[Old Skier]

The 4th paragraph seems to indicate that our regular roll ups are to be included. Why for heaven sakes? It's a social game amongst mates and certainly in our weekend roll ups the banter is far more important than the scores. Why make these qualifiers?

If your roll ups are like ours with gimmes under a certain length then they cannot be used and taken into account for anything.

 

[pokerjoke]

I certainly would put mine in. I was always miffed that my H4H winning score at West Hill wasn't accepted by my golf committee

Move on mate one good round doesn't make a career.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

If your roll ups are like ours with gimmes under a certain length then they cannot be used and taken into account for anything.

We'll have to start giving a few then. The Sunday one holes out everything as there's big money at stake

 

[richart]

I certainly would put mine in. I was always miffed that my H4H winning score at West Hill wasn't accepted by my golf committee

You must talk me through that round




















again.

 

[chrisd]

Move on mate one good round doesn't make a career.

That round, plus some other good rounds id had would have taken me into single figures for my only time!

Not a career but would have been the pinnacle maybe! :smirk:

 

[Tashyboy]

Cannot understand why anyone would not think this is a good idea, irrspective of how much work is involved. It was not to long ago that the " They exsist" thread re bandits, and the other thread where someone was cleaning up major prizes, was discussed or more so there handicaps. If it means that competition clubs are sending back scores to home clubs, then that can only be a good thing.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Cannot understand why anyone would not think this is a good idea, irrspective of how much work is involved. It was not to long ago that the " They exsist" thread re bandits, and the other thread where someone was cleaning up major prizes, was discussed or more so there handicaps. If it means that competition clubs are sending back scores to home clubs, then that can only be a good thing.

I agree with sending back scores in competitions, but fail to see why roll up games need to be included. Aren't they suppose to be simply fun and don't the majority already submit many competitive cards per year?

 

[Val]

Phil, are you saying this is for social golf at away courses or is it for competitive rounds like better ball opens etc at away courses?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Cannot understand why anyone would not think this is a good idea, irrspective of how much work is involved. It was not to long ago that the " They exsist" thread re bandits, and the other thread where someone was cleaning up major prizes, was discussed or more so there handicaps. If it means that competition clubs are sending back scores to home clubs, then that can only be a good thing.

It still on the reliance of the player - if people are sandbagging they won't inform the committee of their scores and the non qualifying comps won't send the scores back.

A lot of the HC sec like myself are non paid volunteers who do everything else in their spare time - all this adding sheets just adds more hassle to them and then at the end of the day it's only for the AR to be used for consideration - it has no effect on the HC so it could end up being a lot of work for nothing

It's needs to be done automatically via a HC system like IG where the scores are fed in automatically - in the same way Qualfiying away scores are

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Phil, are you saying this is for social golf at away courses or is it for competitive rounds like better ball opens etc at away courses?

It's for golf that is played under competition conditions ( no gimmies etc ) and on measured courses and mainly for as you say - AM AMs , better ball , pairs teams etc

It's not social golf 👍

 

[Val]

So, would forum meets as an example which tend to have no gimmes and on a measured course and are competitive be included? For me these are really just social games.

Could get messy that.

 

[Old Skier]

I agree with sending back scores in competitions, but fail to see why roll up games need to be included. Aren't they suppose to be simply fun and don't the majority already submit many competitive cards per year?

I have seen clubs roll ups featured in club diaries, why can't they just be played as qualifiers.

"Clubs should also be aware of regular roll-ups that take place at their club,where players are playing off a measured course under Competition PlayConditions. We would advise that these types of competitions should be playedas qualifiers when possible. "

 

[Old Skier]

So, would forum meets as an example which tend to have no gimmes and on a measured course and are competitive be included? For me these are really just social games.

Could get messy that.

Not a recognized authority so wouldn't count. Think people might be reading to much into this. More to do with properly organized club opens and matches.