No need for speed

[pokerjoke]

The letter of the month in the "your view" section of this months magazine
with Miguel on the front got me thinking is this world or golf going mad.

The letter in question is moaning about fast greens and how 3 putting because
they are so fast[because clubs are priding themselves] on getting good fast greens is slowing the game down.

To me it really sounds like some people are just looking for feeble excuses.
If a player took 10 extra putts because they are too quick how long would that equate to in minutes[maybe 5 for the whole 18] one look for a lost ball.

Crazy,crazy,crazy.

I would seriously question anyone that has to rush around a course in
5 or 10 minutes quicker than it could take.
Golf is a pastime to be enjoyed,being with friends having some banter not
sprinting around the course to be somewhere else.
If you havnt got enough time to play 18 play 12 or 9 you might enjoy
it more than rushing 18.

Imo and others because weve already had slow play threads there are certainly
bigger issues than getting clubs to slow down greens.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Agree with the sentiment, golf can be sped up in other ways. To physically slow down greens would be detrimental to the experience IMO.

 

[Crazyface]

Getting stuck behind two doddery old dears would hold you up. Luckily I spotted them dawdling down the first fairway so, jumped on to the 10th. Phew !!!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I've read about fast greens. For all you Southerners worrying about your Stimpmeter ratings feel free to come to Northumberland were it is colder, damp on the coast and greens are slow, certainly at the moment. I have to thump my putts.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

I've read about fast greens. For all you Southerners worrying about your Stimpmeter ratings feel free to come to Northumberland were it is colder, damp on the coast and greens are slow, certainly at the moment. I have to thump my putts.

I try not to go any further north than Watford, grim oop north.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Alternatively, you could always just give putts to speed up play Tony

 

[Slab]

I said elsewhere that I like a fast green and my preferred putting style is seeing my ball hanging over the hole with just one turn left in it, but for me tight holes add much more time (& expense) to playing a round than a fast green speed ever will

 

[pokerjoke]

Alternatively, you could always just give putts to speed up play Tony

Now you know that's not going to happen Gordon.

I never go onto a golf course to play 18 if I havnt got time to play them or I might have
to rush or cut it fine to get somewhere,whats the point of stressing.
Slowing a green down just so everyone can possibly 2 putt instead of a potential 3 putt
is just ridiculous.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I agree with the OP and to be honest I think clubs should be praised for producing good quality greens that are a decent test for members and rely on speed and not tricked up pin positions to make scores hard to get

 

[Pants]

I have to thump my putts.

Is that a euphanism or a Spoonerism??
:mmm:

 

[palindromicbob]

I always feel if you can't put aside at least 5 hours for a competition day excluding travel then maybe you should look towards a different sport. I have played with people that have rushed to the tee, rushed round the course and basically had their shoes changed and bag in the car before my ball has settled in the cup on the 18th. Never ever again would I want to play with them.

Fast true greens to me are a painful pleasure. I enjoy playing on them but do struggle at times. I think the only thing that should be considered closely is pin placement, i.e. follow the R&A guidelines on setting up a course for competition and it should be fine. Often though I've played at courses where the pin placements seem to ignore that guidance and can seem unfair. The fact it's the same for everyone is little consolation.

 

[3565]

Those who complain about fast greens are those who don't have a stroke, and have the inability to read more breaks on faster greens.

They are used to slower greens which means their stroke is more of a hit then a smooth even tempo, so when faced with faster greens they are going to struggle.

And I agree that if you can't allot enough time for a full round or need to be somewhere at a certain time and could sqeeeeeeze 18 but then eff n blind cos they are being held up, then play 9 or don't play. Golf isn't running around like a hare nor should you be like the tortoise, but at times those who push persistently, even if the group are keeping up with the group in front, can be, if not more annoying.

 

[MadAdey]

I love a fast green, but only if it is fast because it is well maintained. I hate playing when the greens are only fast because they have been cut to the bare bones and are hard as a rock which means even a well struck short iron isn't going to stop.

i agree with other comments regarding people not being good with the flat stick and that is why the don't like a green that requires them to stroke the ball.

 

[Oddsocks]

The complete arguments rests in the balance of your ore stroke putting routine. You f your a look point and stroke player with relatively flattish greens it wouldn't add that much time having fast greens. But if your a look from both sides and break point kinda player on larger undulating greens it could add an forty five minutes maybe???

The letter of the month in the "your view" section of this months magazine
with Miguel on the front got me thinking is this world or golf going mad.

The letter in question is moaning about fast greens and how 3 putting because
they are so fast[because clubs are priding themselves] on getting good fast greens is slowing the game down.

To me it really sounds like some people are just looking for feeble excuses.
If a player took 10 extra putts because they are too quick how long would that equate to in minutes[maybe 5 for the whole 18] one look for a lost ball.

Crazy,crazy,crazy.

I would seriously question anyone that has to rush around a course in
5 or 10 minutes quicker than it could take.
Golf is a pastime to be enjoyed,being with friends having some banter not
sprinting around the course to be somewhere else.
If you havnt got enough time to play 18 play 12 or 9 you might enjoy
it more than rushing 18.

Imo and others because weve already had slow play threads there are certainly
bigger issues than getting clubs to slow down greens.

 

[Khamelion]

What the hell is a spoonerism?

The greens at my course last year were awful, we had an issue with a contagious fungus towards the end of the season, they were slow, bumpy and just very good to put on, putting on some of the greens was like playing bagatelle.

The club recognised that a lot of member had made complaints about the greens and funded a report from the STRI and from the turn of the year before the season began, the green keepers started to introduce the practices laid out in the report. So all members are now looking forward to better quality greens, which inevitably will be faster.

 

[Break90]

What the hell is a spoonerism?

The greens at my course last year were awful, we had an issue with a contagious fungus towards the end of the season, they were slow, bumpy and just very good to put on, putting on some of the greens was like playing bagatelle.

The club recognised that a lot of member had made complaints about the greens and funded a report from the STRI and from the turn of the year before the season began, the green keepers started to introduce the practices laid out in the report. So all members are now looking forward to better quality greens, which inevitably will be faster.

It's a term for a phrase or name where the swapping of the first letter (or letters) of each word produces a humorous outcome.

For example, there was a Grand National horse once called Joe Blob (swap the J and the BL)

Other examples would be cunning stunts, or pheasant pluckers.......

Named for William Archibald Spooner, a reverend who was famous for making slip-ups with words.

With regards to greens, i prefer them quick but they have to be true, and a well struck iron should stop on them.