New Shaft Question

[KhalJimbo]

So I'm thinking of getting some new shafts for my irons, they are all Stiff shaft but I don't swing fast enough for a Stiff Flex. So thinking of getting some Regular shafts.

I'm interested to know first, how much I should be considering for new shafts and any brands etc. And also do I need to be fit for them or if I can just go buy a bunch and get them fitted to my irons?

Also, does anyone have any experience of the SuperStoke putter grips? I'm liking the look of them and wondering if it is worth it?

 

[Dan2501]

What's making you think you don't swing quick enough for stiff shafts? Are they stock stiff?

 

[KhalJimbo]

What's making you think you don't swing quick enough for stiff shafts? Are they stock stiff?

Yes, they came stock "Speed Step 85". Well I'm just guessing really since I've only just started playing. I don't know what my swing speed is but I doubt its over 100mph which is apparently where stiff shafts come into play.

 

[spongebob59]

So I'm thinking of getting some new shafts for my irons, they are all Stiff shaft but I don't swing fast enough for a Stiff Flex. So thinking of getting some Regular shafts.

I'm interested to know first, how much I should be considering for new shafts and any brands etc. And also do I need to be fit for them or if I can just go buy a bunch and get them fitted to my irons?

Also, does anyone have any experience of the SuperStoke putter grips? I'm liking the look of them and wondering if it is worth it?

Probably cheaper to buy a 2nd hand set with regular shafts.

You live near Manston ?

You can have a custom fitting session there for a tanner.

They'll give you the numbers to decide what shafts you need, rather than just go out and re shaft.

Think they have some putters there with superstrokes too, sure you could take one out to the putting green if you asked.

 

[fundy]

Yes, they came stock "Speed Step 85". Well I'm just guessing really since I've only just started playing. I don't know what my swing speed is but I doubt its over 100mph which is apparently where stiff shafts come into play.

100mph is referring to driver swing speed not irons and is at best a guide

If I was you Id find somewhere to go and try, AG or DG would do, try a variety of clubs and a variety of shafts to try and get a better picture of your swing speed and what suits you.

Reshafting the ones you currently have makes very little sense as you dont know what will suit you and is likely to be uneconomical anyway

 

[KhalJimbo]

Probably cheaper to buy a 2nd hand set with regular shafts.

You live near Manston ?

You can have a custom fitting session there for a tanner.

They'll give you the numbers to decide what shafts you need, rather than just go out and re shaft.

Think they have some putters there with superstrokes too, sure you could take one out to the putting green if you asked.

I'm closish to Manston, about 20mins away.

Do you mean its cheaper to get a second hand pair of clubs than buying new shafts?

 

[Dan2501]

Yes, they came stock "Speed Step 85". Well I'm just guessing really since I've only just started playing. I don't know what my swing speed is but I doubt its over 100mph which is apparently where stiff shafts come into play.

How far do you hit your 7 iron? I'm a high handicapper, and have tried off-the-shelf regular, graphite regular and currently have Dynalite Stiff's in my Nike Covert's, and I've noticed no massive difference in the quality of my strike, or distance since switching. I don't think you'd notice a big difference putting new shafts in your clubs. There's only one way to find out though, go and hit some clubs with regular shafts in and see which ones you hit best, and which ones feel best. I'd be surprised if you noticed a discernible difference though, and the majority of difference comes with feel rather than anything else. You won't suddenly start hitting it a lot better just by switching to stock regular shafts.

 

[Ethan]

My advice would be to go test some shafts and ignore what is written on the label. Some regular in one brand are stiffer and heavier than stiff in another brand. The modern thinking is that shaft weight is at least as important.

the Speed Step 85 is a pretty light shaft, and it isn't very stiff either, so it is a classic example of one of the soft stiff shafts referenced above.

Try it, try some others and see what you think. You might be surprised. If your driver swing speed is 100, then your 6 iron speed is about 85 and the Speed Step 85 might feel rather weak and light even in so-called stiff flex.

 

[spongebob59]

I'm closish to Manston, about 20mins away.

Do you mean its cheaper to get a second hand pair of clubs than buying new shafts?

I'm guessing 50-100 quid to change shafts + the cost of the shafts and grips, so it soon adds up.
Hence a second hand set if you know what you're after.

A tanner will let you try a whole array of new toys and you might identify a shaft that suits you.
They'll get you to swing your clubs first and they should suggest if you already have right flex for your swing.

 

[Foxholer]

I'm closish to Manston, about 20mins away.

Do you mean its cheaper to get a second hand pair of clubs than buying new shafts?

Certainly is - at least after selling the current ones!

Shafts (and grips) will cost £80 to £120 and there's little demand for the old shafts. Fitting will probably be another £50 or more.

Buying a 2nd hand set with Regular shafts and selling your current ones is likely to cost significantly less than that! And you also have the benefit (if you buy first) of checking out whether the change is really a good one - for only the fees (and the temporary capital) if they don't work!

However, you seem to be working in the dark (or from hearsay/assumption) about what you really need. So I'd suggest you check out the fitter and find out what really works!

Oh and for considerably less, a few lessons are likely to improve your golf more permanently than changing hardware!

Unless they are grossly wrong for you, the flex of irons is not hugely influential imo. Getting the right ones in the first place is still worthwhile though.

 

[ScienceBoy]

Don't discount graphite, newer iron shafts are getting pretty good.

Worth a look at least.

 

[GreiginFife]

Don't discount graphite, newer iron shafts are getting pretty good.

Worth a look at least.

Definitely cheaper replacing the set in that case. UST Recoils in the 110g Stiff are awesome shafts but at £420 a set with about £35 of grips then needed, cost prohibitive.

 

[KhalJimbo]

Certainly is - at least after selling the current ones!

Shafts (and grips) will cost £80 to £120 and there's little demand for the old shafts. Fitting will probably be another £50 or more.

Buying a 2nd hand set with Regular shafts and selling your current ones is likely to cost significantly less than that! And you also have the benefit (if you buy first) of checking out whether the change is really a good one - for only the fees (and the temporary capital) if they don't work!

However, you seem to be working in the dark (or from hearsay/assumption) about what you really need. So I'd suggest you check out the fitter and find out what really works!

Oh and for considerably less, a few lessons are likely to improve your golf more permanently than changing hardware!

Unless they are grossly wrong for you, the flex of irons is not hugely influential imo. Getting the right ones in the first place is still worthwhile though.

Thanks, I've actually just finished a set of lessons (5 range and 2 hour playing) only reason I thought about changing shafts is when I started reading about club face speeds for different flexes, but as has been pointed out this is only really for drivers where I thought it applied to irons too. I'll go get my swing measured (my club can do that) and see what type of speed I'm getting. Would be interesting to know. This has kinda put my mind at ease, I usually get a carry of around 150 with a 7 iron so wondered if I had a different flex that would be improved.

 

[Foxholer]

That's probably borderline, probably equating to similar speed to me as that's my 6 iron distance - allowing for the stronger lofts of the XHots.

Regular might give you a little more distance, but probably at the 'cost' of dispersion (variation from straight/normal). As irons are mainly about accuracy (shots into the green), I'd suggest you stay with the current shafts anyway.