Muirfield, women, the R&A and The Open

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And I see that slow play was given as one of the reasons. Seriously? Dinosaurs and I hope the r&a mean what they say and stick to it.

Sadly, in the end, it's the majority who miss out because of a few idiots.
 
If the R&A say they wont hold the open there naymore then that all thats needed.

No problem them staying men only
 
I am intrigued to find out what this special lunch arrangement is? The whole situation it ridiculous. I wouldn't want to join a place like that even if they opened it up to all.
 
Somehow I don't think the members will be at all bothered about losing the Open. It must be a major inconvenience for a couple of months every time it comes around and the course has already built up a worldwide reputation so they aren't really losing out.
 
I don't have a problem with it it's their private club they should be able to run it as they please, I wouldn't have an issue with women only clubs either.
 
To be honest, who are we to comment on their policies and the way they run their club. They voted against women joining so now they have to live and accept to consequences by that decision.

Personally I don't agree with it, but it's their choice not ours
 
drive4show said:
Somehow I don't think the members will be at all bothered about losing the Open. It must be a major inconvenience for a couple of months every time it comes around and the course has already built up a worldwide reputation so they aren't really losing out.
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You are correct, the members have never been too keen on hosting The Open.
R&A may move across the fence to Archerfield to keep an Edinburgh venue
 
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Interestingly, you could actually argue that womens golf is more sexist than mens. I've just looked at the entry form for the Open Championship and it clearly states that women can enter. Somehow I don't think that is the case with the womens British Open.

Do you think men should be allowed to enter that? :whistle:
 
Presumably many members who voted against were simply voting to take themselves off the Open roster, as well as there being a few old misogynists. The R&A wil have made their likely responses quite clear in advance.

Pity. I remember some great Opens there.
 
Both decisions are fine in my eyes. The club belongs to the members and if they want to keep it single sex then that is their choice. Plenty of women only gyms around here that exclude me as a man so you can't have it every way. Equally once women are excluded then it should not be considered as an Open venue. All open venues should be available to men and women.

As has been said, the name of Muirfield is strong enough to cope without being a current Open venue. Woburn, Sunningdale, Wentworth all manage without being part of the Open rota and people would queue up to play them. No skin off the Muirfield noses.
 
In a hilarious bit of irony, as 'Outbrain' has picked up 'women' and 'golf', at the bottom of the page, where The Telegraph is slamming Muirfield for sexism, you can find links to "The 15 Hottest LPGA Players 2015" and "15 Stunning Female Athletes That Are Way Out Of Your League"
 
drive4show said:
Somehow I don't think the members will be at all bothered about losing the Open. It must be a major inconvenience for a couple of months every time it comes around and the course has already built up a worldwide reputation so they aren't really losing out.
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They don't care a jot whether they get an open again or not
 
drive4show said:
Interestingly, you could actually argue that womens golf is more sexist than mens. I've just looked at the entry form for the Open Championship and it clearly states that women can enter. Somehow I don't think that is the case with the womens British Open.

Do you think men should be allowed to enter that? :whistle:
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I am not sure it's still the same but the women's tour is the only sex specific the pga is open to both
 
Some of the statements by the club, and their letter to members are interesting to say the least. Foursomes, speedy play, lunch arrangements (??), not sure what any of it actually means tbh but sounds like they value their customs and traditions which is of course their prerogative. Interesting comment about a separate course/clubhouse. Played at Formby Ladies GC the other week and that's exactly what they have. I don't know the rules around it but seems to work.

Overall though it's just delaying the inevitable and in 50 years time it will be comical that this sort of thing was ever an issue. Try telling a kid out of school now that you could smoke in the office 25 years ago and they think you are having a laugh. Same sort of thing.....tradition is one thing but times change....just that time seems to run more slowly in some places.
 
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