Mother to be.

[dewsweeper]

Probably an age thing in my case but I find this new directive with regards NHS consultants being advised not to use the phrase " mother to be " to pregnant women (should I say persons perhaps? ) most odd.

 

[anotherdouble]

As always in these type of things, I can think of much more important things these people who sit around a table should be discussing,rather than to me, and again it could be an age thing, something so trivial

 

[Crow]

They have to find something for all the levels of management within the NHS to do.

 

[anotherdouble]

They have to find something for all the levels of management within the NHS to do.

That's about right

 

[Tashyboy]

They have to find something for all the levels of management within the NHS to do.

NHS management also known as nob heads to be. 👍Sorted for you crow

 

[HomerJSimpson]

That's about right

I concur. No idea what some of our do

 

[PhilTheFragger]

My daughter is a midwifery student in her final year and she thinks it's utter bollox

Political correctness gone bonkers, sack an entire management tier right now

 

[Lump]

hasn't a bloke just been on the new's recently for being pregnant? (a sex changed woman all the same)

 

[FairwayDodger]

This appears to be classic daily mail making a fuss over nothing.

It's a BMA document rather than an NHS management edict. The "pregnant people" term is possibly the only slightly incongruous part of a very good, positive and useful reference that should certainly help medical staff treat our diverse population with respect and without inadvertently causing offence.

Should be essential reading for anyone providing a public service and anyone who considers it "PC gone bonkers" should maybe reconsider their career choices.

 

[upsidedown]

Talked to HiD about this as this is her field of expertise and they wouldn't/don't use such a term anyway .

 

[HomerJSimpson]

My daughter is a midwifery student in her final year and she thinks it's utter bollox

Political correctness gone bonkers, sack an entire management tier right now

Does she want a job at the Royal Berks in Reading??? We are always looking for midwives

 

[PhilTheFragger]

This appears to be classic daily mail making a fuss over nothing.

It's a BMA document rather than an NHS management edict. The "pregnant people" term is possibly the only slightly incongruous part of a very good, positive and useful reference that should certainly help medical staff treat our diverse population with respect and without inadvertently causing offence.

Should be essential reading for anyone providing a public service and anyone who considers it "PC gone bonkers" should maybe reconsider their career choices.

I'm incredibly proud of my daughters achievements , she isn't 21 yet , but has delivered 31 babies, saved lives and is a credit to her chosen profession. She only has the interests of the women under her care at heart.

In the great scheme of things , how we refer to expectant mothers is immaterial.

They will receive the same treatment from brilliant midwives

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm incredibly proud of my daughters achievements , she isn't 21 yet , but has delivered 31 babies, saved lives and is a credit to her chosen profession. She only has the interests of the women under her care at heart.

In the great scheme of things , how we refer to expectant mothers is immaterial.

They will receive the same treatment from brilliant midwives

Which hospital is she at ? Our midwife is superb - reckon her and my wife must text or what's app on a daily basis - she has been supportive and caring and helped my wife with anything so far

 

[Tashyboy]

This appears to be classic daily mail making a fuss over nothing.

It's a BMA document rather than an NHS management edict. The "pregnant people" term is possibly the only slightly incongruous part of a very good, positive and useful reference that should certainly help medical staff treat our diverse population with respect and without inadvertently causing offence.

Should be essential reading for anyone providing a public service and anyone who considers it "PC gone bonkers" should maybe reconsider their career choices.

Any chance of posting it up.

missis T was telling me about her Bosses. That last one was frogmarched off the premises, all sorts of rumours went round the hospital as to why. None of which were true. The bottom line was she told her senior manager to " get stuffed" coz she would not " toe the company line". She told them something they were doing was wrong. She was told she would be sacked. Odd thing was she took them to court. They settled out of court costing the NHS/ Joe public a pretty penny. On the premise she kept her gob shut. She was one of Missis Ts friends from way back. She had meetings with Missis T and staff out of office so they were not distracted.

she now has a new gaffer, she has had her for a year, Missis T knows who she is, she saw her when she was a ward leader said she was a very good nurse. She has not seen her in the year she is a manager. She never contacted her when she was off work for a couple of months, never visited her in hospital, has had no contact with her whatsoever re work of her past personal probs. I told Missis T if she ever rings she will get a round of bollockings off Tash.
Would not doubt one bit that the story is made up, but it is easy to believe because most of the management come across as Rammel.
but and this is a massive but, been watching the hospital programme on BBC re St Mary's and some of the management on there come across as superhuman. It is a fly on the wall programme that shows the dire state the NHS is in.

 

[Tashyboy]

I'm incredibly proud of my daughters achievements , she isn't 21 yet , but has delivered 31 babies, saved lives and is a credit to her chosen profession. She only has the interests of the women under her care at heart.

In the great scheme of things , how we refer to expectant mothers is immaterial.

They will receive the same treatment from brilliant midwives

Phil is your daughter at Birmingham, me niece is there at present and is in her second year.

 

[Tashyboy]

Does she want a job at the Royal Berks in Reading??? We are always looking for midwives

Homer let it go you bad man😂

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I'm incredibly proud of my daughters achievements , she isn't 21 yet , but has delivered 31 babies, saved lives and is a credit to her chosen profession. She only has the interests of the women under her care at heart.

In the great scheme of things , how we refer to expectant mothers is immaterial.

They will receive the same treatment from brilliant midwives

Here, here. And can I entice her to Reading? I'm not even on a commission

 

[FairwayDodger]

I'm incredibly proud of my daughters achievements , she isn't 21 yet , but has delivered 31 babies, saved lives and is a credit to her chosen profession. She only has the interests of the women under her care at heart.

In the great scheme of things , how we refer to expectant mothers is immaterial.

They will receive the same treatment from brilliant midwives

I'm sure you are and I agree on this particular point. I think men giving birth is vanishingly rare and I'd hope that any midwives in that situation would manage to be suitably respectful without needing to use different terminology across the board.

However, the document wasn't aimed specifically at midwives but at all healthcare workers and was much wider ranging than this one phrase. Everything else in it seemed pretty much spot on to me but the "PC gone mad" brigade are insensitive to the needs of others and always rage against this sort of initiative.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Any chance of posting it up.

missis T was telling me about her Bosses. That last one was frogmarched off the premises, all sorts of rumours went round the hospital as to why. None of which were true. The bottom line was she told her senior manager to " get stuffed" coz she would not " toe the company line". She told them something they were doing was wrong. She was told she would be sacked. Odd thing was she took them to court. They settled out of court costing the NHS/ Joe public a pretty penny. On the premise she kept her gob shut. She was one of Missis Ts friends from way back. She had meetings with Missis T and staff out of office so they were not distracted.

she now has a new gaffer, she has had her for a year, Missis T knows who she is, she saw her when she was a ward leader said she was a very good nurse. She has not seen her in the year she is a manager. She never contacted her when she was off work for a couple of months, never visited her in hospital, has had no contact with her whatsoever re work of her past personal probs. I told Missis T if she ever rings she will get a round of bollockings off Tash.
Would not doubt one bit that the story is made up, but it is easy to believe because most of the management come across as Rammel.
but and this is a massive but, been watching the hospital programme on BBC re St Mary's and some of the management on there come across as superhuman. It is a fly on the wall programme that shows the dire state the NHS is in.

Try this

https://www.bma.org.uk/-/media/file...ide-to-effective-communication-2016.pdf?la=en

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Phil is your daughter at Birmingham, me niece is there at present and is in her second year.

Yeah , Birmingham she absolutely loves it, it's what she was born to do, proper calling.
She is in a house with 5 other final year midwives and a finer bunch of young women I have yet to meet .

Gives one faith in the human race

Pm me your neice's name I'll get her to say Hi