Membership in North Liverpool

[Stegsie]

Evening all,

I was wondering if anyone is a member of West Derby GC or Mossock Hall GC in the North of Liverpool? I am currently laid up after an operation to hopefully assist with my ongoing heart problems and am determined to get out and about in the near future - and hopefully join somewhere in the new year. I like the idea of being a member as if I only get to play a few holes at a time as I build my strength / stamina up then I don't feel like I've wasted my green fees for that specific day.

I've been a member at Aintree GC for a while but with it only being 9 holes and having basically no changing facilities / showers etc then it's not that appealing to renew.

Cheers

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I can't comment on Mossack but west derby is a decent track though it suffers the most in the area when it rains.

I'd be looking at Childwall,Royal Lee Park and Huyton & Prescot over Wet Derby as its known

 

[Stegsie]

I can't comment on Mossack but west derby is a decent track though it suffers the most in the area when it rains.

I'd be looking at Childwall,Royal Lee Park and Huyton & Prescot over Wet Derby as its known

Cheers mate.

I've played West Derby quite a few times over the years, but only ever in the sun! Their twitter feed has shown quite a lot of improvements being made to the course, so hopefully that'll help.

All the others are decent tracks but a bit far for a knock after work!

 

[LCW]

These are just my opinions take them as you will.

I think West Derby GC is a poor golf course these days nothing about it stands out and is unplayable after a bit of rain.

Childwall is a good track for an inner city course but I heard its a closed shop at the moment and £1200 joining fee.

Woolton - another thats pretty boring, kind of course i would love to play if i was 70 and could only hit 100 yrd drives ;-). There are too many par 4's that barely scrap over 300 yrs in length.

Lee Park - Again another one not to bad for a inner city course and the greens can be brilliant in the summer very receptive and quick just what I like.

Huyton and Prescot have some good membership deals, isnt a long course but has some nice holes and the greens are amazing in the summer.

There is a massive distance gap between mossack and WD GC which you mentioned so.....

Why not look at something like houghwood (another that slightly suffers in the winter) but its a good course with interesting holes or blundells hill ? (think that maybe a closed shop at the moment as well).

 

[louise_a]

I have played Mossock Hall a couple of times, its not a bad course but not one that makes you want to rush back.

 

[Liverbirdie]

These are just my opinions take them as you will.

I think West Derby GC is a poor golf course these days nothing about it stands out and is unplayable after a bit of rain.

Childwall is a good track for an inner city course but I heard its a closed shop at the moment and £1200 joining fee.

Woolton - another thats pretty boring, kind of course i would love to play if i was 70 and could only hit 100 yrd drives ;-). There are too many par 4's that barely scrap over 300 yrs in length.

Lee Park - Again another one not to bad for a inner city course and the greens can be brilliant in the summer very receptive and quick just what I like.

Huyton and Prescot have some good membership deals, isnt a long course but has some nice holes and the greens are amazing in the summer.

There is a massive distance gap between mossack and WD GC which you mentioned so.....

Why not look at something like houghwood (another that slightly suffers in the winter) but its a good course with interesting holes or blundells hill ? (think that maybe a closed shop at the moment as well).

Pretty much spot on, although for Huyton and Prescot, I would say "It's like a muni, but in good nick".

Stegsie, where do you live and work?

Hope the recovery goes well. :thup:

 

[Stegsie]

Cheers.

I live and work in Bootle, mate.

 

[Stegsie]

These are just my opinions take them as you will.

I think West Derby GC is a poor golf course these days nothing about it stands out and is unplayable after a bit of rain.

Childwall is a good track for an inner city course but I heard its a closed shop at the moment and £1200 joining fee.

Woolton - another thats pretty boring, kind of course i would love to play if i was 70 and could only hit 100 yrd drives ;-). There are too many par 4's that barely scrap over 300 yrs in length.

Lee Park - Again another one not to bad for a inner city course and the greens can be brilliant in the summer very receptive and quick just what I like.

Huyton and Prescot have some good membership deals, isnt a long course but has some nice holes and the greens are amazing in the summer.

There is a massive distance gap between mossack and WD GC which you mentioned so.....

Why not look at something like houghwood (another that slightly suffers in the winter) but its a good course with interesting holes or blundells hill ? (think that maybe a closed shop at the moment as well).

Excellent, mate. Appreciate the response.

Houghwood is lovely, played it a few times over the years. Thought the membership would be very expensive - will have to check on that.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Excellent, mate. Appreciate the response.

Houghwood is lovely, played it a few times over the years. Thought the membership would be very expensive - will have to check on that.

If one leg is 6 inches shorter than the other, you'll be reet at Houghwood.

 

[davemc1]

It's the ongoing problem up here mate isn't it.

I never did take up that 3 month offer from Mossock, which is just as well as I've played one game in the last 6 weeks or so.

Personally, I think the best options are H+P, cracking course, 20 mins door to door.
And, West Lancs, which I've not played but heard can be brutal. Also, You'd have to weigh up the value going there, with not playing much.

I think it's another year at Aintree for me, I got the £200 flexi membership this year, don't think I've even used half the points.

Take it easy mate.

 

[Duckster]

West Lancs is a great shout. Might be a touch expensive for the 1st year, but it's a course you can play all year round.

Have heard that they've opened the doors now, no waiting list and no need to be put forward by current members.

 

[Stegsie]

It's the ongoing problem up here mate isn't it.

I never did take up that 3 month offer from Mossock, which is just as well as I've played one game in the last 6 weeks or so.

Personally, I think the best options are H+P, cracking course, 20 mins door to door.
And, West Lancs, which I've not played but heard can be brutal. Also, You'd have to weigh up the value going there, with not playing much.

I think it's another year at Aintree for me, I got the £200 flexi membership this year, don't think I've even used half the points.

Take it easy mate.

Nice one, Dave.

I went up to Mossock and to be honest I wouldn't join them - never felt so unwelcome in all my life! Wasn't happy at all in the way I was treated; they honestly couldn't be bothered (as far as i could see) so it put me right off. WDGC were amazing but I am unsure about the playability over the winter etc.

Not played H+P, will look into that.

Aintree, as always, have been brilliant and the lads are sound. I might just do another year there.

West lancs is amazing - but also has an amazing price tag! My Brother in Law is a member - the first years membership is over £3.5k though so I'd need to sell a few body parts to afford that (in fact, my body parts aren't worth much so I'm really stuck!!)

 

[Stegsie]

West Lancs is a great shout. Might be a touch expensive for the 1st year, but it's a course you can play all year round.

Have heard that they've opened the doors now, no waiting list and no need to be put forward by current members.

It's a belter, mate, but very expensive for the 1st year. Not an option unless I get a nice little win on the horses!

 

[LCW]

Surely they (west lancs) will offer some sort of deal to split the joining fee over 2/3/4 years? Most golf clubs use fairway credit these days for subs/joining fee's.

Honestly if your into playing the links (and want all year round play) and not inner city parkland courses its the only place apart from Hesketh GC that your going to get in around the north west area really if it is open to membership at the moment. Not to call out anyone a liar as i know a few members at the club but I wouldn't have thought WLGC had no waiting list and no need to be put forward by current members but i could be wrong.

Birkdale/Hillside/Formby/Wallasey/Royal Liverpool/Even Caldy are just closed shops at the moment and probably for the foreseeable future will be unless you get in the know, that's without the mental joining fee's and only starting on 5 day memberships at some places if you were lucky enough. They make lots of money on mental visitor fee's to even think about needing to take on more members its more a dead mans shoes kind of beat up the north west coast.

 

[Duckster]

Surely they (west lancs) will offer some sort of deal to split the joining fee over 2/3/4 years? Most golf clubs use fairway credit these days for subs/joining fee's.

Honestly if your into playing the links (and want all year round play) and not inner city parkland courses its the only place apart from Hesketh GC that your going to get in around the north west area really if it is open to membership at the moment. Not to call out anyone a liar as i know a few members at the club but I wouldn't have thought WLGC had no waiting list and no need to be put forward by current members but i could be wrong.

Birkdale/Hillside/Formby/Wallasey/Royal Liverpool/Even Caldy are just closed shops at the moment and probably for the foreseeable future will be unless you get in the know, that's without the mental joining fee's and only starting on 5 day memberships at some places if you were lucky enough. They make lots of money on mental visitor fee's to even think about needing to take on more members its more a dead mans shoes kind of beat up the north west coast.

West Lancs have the application form on their website which states that not knowing anyone for Proposer and seconder would not necessarily be a barrier. However, this is a moot point if his brother in law is already a member.

Also, I know a couple who moved back to the Formby area late last year. The fella simply walked into Formby GC and enquired about joining. Turns out he was talking to the secretary. Had a round with him and some others from the board and 2 weeks after walking in, he was given a 6 months trial membership to see if he fitted them and vice versa. He's a full member now.

When I was at Hillside for an Open 2 years ago, I was speaking to the President, (who was acting starter) of the club about how long the waiting list was. He replied that if I had the joining and 1st year fees, I could sign up as soon as I'd had an interview, no need to be introduced. (Granted I've since heard that they are full).

I think a lot of it is more that on the website they try to appear as if they are "closed shops" but so long as you not a complete arse, turn up looking smart for the interview and wave the (guessing here) £5k at them to cover the joining and first years greens fees anything is possible.

 

[Junior]

Hillside, Formby, S&A, West lancs are not closed shops. It just takes a bit of effort to join. You may have to start as a 5 day at some if membership is full, or, play some golf with committee members etc, but, if you have the coin, that's about it. SAOL (which isn't in the calibre of the courses previously mentioned), but , the condition of the greens and course are just as good, is still taking members !

 

[LCW]

When I was at Hillside for an Open 2 years ago, I was speaking to the President, (who was acting starter) of the club about how long the waiting list was. He replied that if I had the joining and 1st year fees, I could sign up as soon as I'd had an interview, no need to be introduced. (Granted I've since heard that they are full).

Guarantee you this is not true.

 

[Junior]

I know of someone who recently enquired to Hillside. The only category of member ship that was open was 5 day, but, if they had the coin and went through the interviews etc, then they could join. Then, upon 7 day vacancy's becoming available, they can upgrade their membership if they so desired.

 

[Duckster]

Guarantee you this is not true.

I can only state what I was told & as Junior has stated, they have 5 day memberships open. So guess it is true then.

 

[Liverbirdie]

I wrote to all the potential clubs I was considering joining last November, and from e-mails,rumours, conversations, phone call since, I had gleaned the following. I/we didnt have proposers for most of them (as from the south end of Liverpool, so I am nearly 20 miles away from a lot of them), so the initial e-mail asked for joining fee, current green fees and a few other details. After receiving the replies (if given) I then sent a second e-mail (or called) asking if they would consider an application without proposers, or to kindly advise me if I would be wasting my time.

Hillside - No I wouldn't be wasting my time, as the policy at the time wasn't absolutely must have proposers, BUT they would not not be even looking at new applications until June 2015. I was in job limbo in June, but contacted them again in September and they apologised, and advised that they had gone back to "must-have proposers", mainly because people on the immediate waiting list had them. Gutted. BTW I was advised that 6 day was the first step, and it was taking approx 4-5 years before stepping up to full 7 day.

S and A - Didn't go well.

West Lancs - Seemed happy to proceed, but overall were the most expensive joining fee, and the most expensive green (and building levy fees). Although I like West Lancs, I also felt it would be too much of a slog a lot of the time, as a very tough course, is rarely calm to play, cos the wind whistles straight in off the sea.

Wallasey - very helpful and the cheapest joining fee (payable over 3 years) and green fees.

Formby - Wouldn't even give details as to fees, but very strict joining protocols, and if you know proposers through business only, they shouldn't really propose you. I had heard that many members had died in winter 2014, so were probably accepting more than normal. A mate was at charity dinner and was talking to a membership guy who said that he could maybe get him in.......but £5k joining and £ 1,600 a year green fees put us all off.

I also wrote to Delamere, Warrington, Grange park etc but werent high on my list.

Honest to god, spit down dead...........

Where you at LCW? Welcome to the forum BTW.