Measuring using golf club

[Trooke]

Hi All,
Can anyone tell me the rule relating to measuring a two club distance with a club. Can the head cover remain on. I have tried to find this out in the rules but all it says is measure with club. If you can use a club with a head cover (and some of these are large) then you increase the distance you have and can have an advantage over players who remove their club head cover.
many thanks
Tony

 

[DCB]

No headcover allowed.

 

[apj0524]

Sorry to hijack the tread a bit, but can it be a driver all the time to measure two club lengths or does it have the be two club lengths of the club you are going use to hit the next shot?

 

[rulefan]

Sorry to hijack the tread a bit, but can it be a driver all the time to measure two club lengths or does it have the be two club lengths of the club you are going use to hit the next shot?

It can be any club in you have with you.

If you are determining the npr, then you use the club you would have played with.
If you are then measuring (an actual distance), you may use any club. You may borrow another player's but it must not be any longer that the longest in your bag.
You may then play with any club.

 

[mikejohnchapman]

Can even use a broomhandled putter which always seemed wrong to me.

 

[Norrin Radd]

yes even a bloody broomhandled putter can be used.

 

[woody69]

You don't have to actually measure with the club though.

 

[Colin L]

You can measure with the headcover on your driver but your ball must hit the ground within the length of the club without it.

 

[Three]

Hi All,
Can anyone tell me the rule relating to measuring a two club distance with a club. Can the head cover remain on. I have tried to find this out in the rules but all it says is measure with club. If you can use a club with a head cover (and some of these are large) then you increase the distance you have and can have an advantage over players who remove their club head cover.
many thanks
Tony

You've answered your own question.
The rules say measure with a club. Is a headcover part of the club?
Do you really think it would be correct to measure with a headcover if it was one of those massive animal ones?
You could buy an elephant headcover and stretch out the trunk for a few extra inches.
In fact, get an anaconda....

 

[CliveW]

If you are determining the npr, then you use the club you would have played with.

The wording of the definition says "the player should use the club with which he would have made his next stroke..." not must.

 

[rulefan]

The wording of the definition says "the player should use the club with which he would have made his next stroke..." not must.

Indeed. But if the point determined is not the true npr and that affects where the ball comes to rest, the drop may have to be taken again or result in a wrong place..

Measuring is not compulsory. In many situations it is easy to estimate where a 'safe' drop can be made but if the player is keen to get full advantage of the rule without upsetting anyone (eg the referee), he would be better advised to follow the procedure.

 

[atticusfinch]

Hi All,
Can anyone tell me the rule relating to measuring a two club distance with a club. Can the head cover remain on. I have tried to find this out in the rules but all it says is measure with club. If you can use a club with a head cover (and some of these are large) then you increase the distance you have and can have an advantage over players who remove their club head cover.
many thanks
Tony

This is a good example of what is meant by taking the rules literally. The rule says you measure with a club. The headcover is not part of the club.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It can be any club in you have with you.

If you are determining the npr, then you use the club you would have played with.
If you are then measuring (an actual distance), you may use any club. You may borrow another player's but it must not be any longer that the longest in your bag.
You may then play with any club.

What do you mean by this - can you give an example.

I can see why you can use ANY club for a penalty drop because by by definition you are choosing to take a drop because you can't play a shot - so no 'club you would have used' can apply and you won't know what club you'll use for your next shot until the drop is complete (and besides that would be your next shot and nothing at all to do with the drop).

'Club you would use' when taking npr is surely often going to be debatable though.

 

[Colin L]

What do you mean by this - can you give an example.

I can see why you can use ANY club for a penalty drop because by by definition you are choosing to take a drop because you can't play a shot - so no 'club you would have used' can apply and you won't know what club you'll use for your next shot until the drop is complete (and besides that would be your next shot and nothing at all to do with the drop).

'Club you would use' when taking npr is surely often going to be debatable though.

It shouldn’t be debatable. The player has to use the club that he would he have used to play his shot if the obstruction, GUR or whatever had not been there in order to establish that there is interference. The nearest point of relief is where there is no interference to a shot with that club. Once the NPR is established he can choose a different club - any club - to measure the one club length within which he has to drop.

There could be a “debate” with a referee, of course, if the player tries it on by choosing a club that would result in an “unreasonable stroke” in order to claim relief.

 

[Twire]

What do you mean by this - can you give an example.

I can see why you can use ANY club for a penalty drop because by by definition you are choosing to take a drop because you can't play a shot - so no 'club you would have used' can apply and you won't know what club you'll use for your next shot until the drop is complete (and besides that would be your next shot and nothing at all to do with the drop).

'Club you would use' when taking npr is surely often going to be debatable though.

I wouldn't say it's "often" debatable, maybe occasionally. I would choose the club that I would be playing the shot with if the interference wasn't there to determine the NPR then use my longest club for the one club length.




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