Down_The_Middle
Head Pro
Are the maximum handicaps changing. A guy where I play said that the max HC for men was going to be 24 and women 30. Anyone any news on this
Max Handicap Changing
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bunkered
Head Pro
Not heard, but its still to much, the max for men should be 18.
RGuk
Tour Winner
Really.....that's not a very good idea i.m.o. where would be the incentive for beginners? Winning comps off 24 was what kept me enthusiastic.
bunkered
Head Pro
Is there any old timers on here who remember the old handicap system.
bunkered
Head Pro
Real. did not take you for a bandit, lol, maybe your right we all need a bit of glory now and again.
rgs
Tour Rookie
Not heard, but its still to much, the max for men should be 18.
Divot--dont agree with your proposal-capping hcaps at 18 would drive a significant number of players away from the game.
Divot--dont agree with your proposal-capping hcaps at 18 would drive a significant number of players away from the game.
RGuk
Tour Winner
Never was, certainly not now either. If you join a club, work your arse off to get better, then shoot 2/4/6? under, it's deserved i.m.o.
best ever score was 45 points (off 19), got hauled in front of the committee. I was SO mad to have to explain myself
. Truth was I'd played non-stop for two weeks previous and was doing an hour on short game everyday. Is it my fault they had a practice green? and a range? and lots of young fillies to make the place interesting. 
theeaglehunter
Tour Winner
limiting handicaps to 18 would in my opinion be stupid. The whole point of the handicap system is so that as wide a range of people as possible in terms of ability can play together...that would eliminate that completely.
It would also mean that people who have been scratch golfers but have got older, meaning their body is no longer as effective, would have to stop playing the game in competitions sooner as they would not be able to get a good enough handicap...and for what reason.
I think the male limit of 28 to play in official competitions is about right as it allows a wide range of people to participate, whilst ensuring that play is not unbareably slow even for those with single figure handicaps.
Limiting it to 18 would drive people away from the game.
It would also mean that people who have been scratch golfers but have got older, meaning their body is no longer as effective, would have to stop playing the game in competitions sooner as they would not be able to get a good enough handicap...and for what reason.
I think the male limit of 28 to play in official competitions is about right as it allows a wide range of people to participate, whilst ensuring that play is not unbareably slow even for those with single figure handicaps.
Limiting it to 18 would drive people away from the game.
bunkered
Head Pro
Eagle, i understand what you are saying, i just feel nobody needs more than one shot per hole, and by the way there is some days i could not play to 28 handicap, it just gives me more determination to play better
theeaglehunter
Tour Winner
I'm glad you do see the other side of the coin.
I also accept what you're saying about only needing 1 shot per hole, everyone is capeable at one stage or another of bogeying every hole...it's just the thing of doing it all in one round.
I just think that because some people would never be able to play to 18 it would be unfair on many.
I also accept what you're saying about only needing 1 shot per hole, everyone is capeable at one stage or another of bogeying every hole...it's just the thing of doing it all in one round.
I just think that because some people would never be able to play to 18 it would be unfair on many.
bunkered
Head Pro
Eagle, at my course its full handicap allowance in matchplay comps, but you only get 18 as a handicap even if you are off 28
RGuk
Tour Winner
I think this is quite a good idea, in a way. 2 shots on a hole is a lot!
TonyN
Money List Winner
Aint pars aimed at what a pro should be able to do the hole in?
For a pro to play a par 5 and a beginner to be expected to do it in 6, dont you think this is a small safety net for beginners?
Or am i way off the mark with this one?
For a pro to play a par 5 and a beginner to be expected to do it in 6, dont you think this is a small safety net for beginners?
Or am i way off the mark with this one?
viscount17
Money List Winner
I think you've got it right Tony. Par is what a scratch player should be capable of.
And divot, I cannot for the life of me see the sense in giving a player a handicap and then giving every low handicapper he comes up against an advantage. A handicap is a handicap and, presumably, there for a reason.
I've heard of some comps that apply 3/4 of your handicap - that can be 6 shots off a high handicapper and 1 or none from a low - where's the sense or fairness in that?
And divot, I cannot for the life of me see the sense in giving a player a handicap and then giving every low handicapper he comes up against an advantage. A handicap is a handicap and, presumably, there for a reason.
I've heard of some comps that apply 3/4 of your handicap - that can be 6 shots off a high handicapper and 1 or none from a low - where's the sense or fairness in that?
Leftie
Tour Winner
Re: Max Handicap Changing
In the last 2 or 3 months, we have fallen into line with the rest of the world regarding handicap allowances. In the past in matchplay, the higher handicapper could only take 3/4 of the handicap difference between the two players. So if player A was off 4 and player B was off 24, the difference was 20 therefore 3/4 of 20 is 15 shots allowed. In the match, player A would get no shots and player B would get a shot at holes indexed 1 - 15. Apparently this gave player A the advantage of about 65% / 35%.
Singles matchplay is now at full h/cap difference bringing player A's advantage down to about 55% / 45% which realistically is virtually a level playing field.
I believe that 4BBB matches may well remain at 3/4 h/cap calculated off the lowest h/capper.
If you want to know about other formats - foursomes, greensomes, texas scramble, etc, don't ask me. Look it up cos I haven't got a clue.
In the last 2 or 3 months, we have fallen into line with the rest of the world regarding handicap allowances. In the past in matchplay, the higher handicapper could only take 3/4 of the handicap difference between the two players. So if player A was off 4 and player B was off 24, the difference was 20 therefore 3/4 of 20 is 15 shots allowed. In the match, player A would get no shots and player B would get a shot at holes indexed 1 - 15. Apparently this gave player A the advantage of about 65% / 35%.
Singles matchplay is now at full h/cap difference bringing player A's advantage down to about 55% / 45% which realistically is virtually a level playing field.
I believe that 4BBB matches may well remain at 3/4 h/cap calculated off the lowest h/capper.
If you want to know about other formats - foursomes, greensomes, texas scramble, etc, don't ask me. Look it up cos I haven't got a clue.
Parmo
Tour Winner
Re: Max Handicap Changing
Sounds daft to me, what's the point in alienating cat 4 players from golf just to help Cat 3s? smells like hypocrisy to me like.
As is said in most threads, golf is needing more people in the game not less. I also think the mid hcp players are the worst for being bandits especially the older ones that needs to be tackled first rather than Cat 4's.
Sounds daft to me, what's the point in alienating cat 4 players from golf just to help Cat 3s? smells like hypocrisy to me like.
As is said in most threads, golf is needing more people in the game not less. I also think the mid hcp players are the worst for being bandits especially the older ones that needs to be tackled first rather than Cat 4's.
GB72
Money List Winner
Re: Max Handicap Changing
If the handicap limit was raised it would cause me no end of problems. I have just a joined a new club and the best way to meet more members is to enter comps. If I was prevented from doing that then my rounds of golf would be pretty lonely until I reach the required standard (which there is no guarantee that I ever will). Really would be little point in being a member in such circumstances.
If the handicap limit was raised it would cause me no end of problems. I have just a joined a new club and the best way to meet more members is to enter comps. If I was prevented from doing that then my rounds of golf would be pretty lonely until I reach the required standard (which there is no guarantee that I ever will). Really would be little point in being a member in such circumstances.
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birdieman
Guest
Re: Max Handicap Changing
I attended a seminar in Feb run by SGU and I can confirm it is a silly rumour with no truth in it. Cat 4 will remain 21-28 for men.
I attended a seminar in Feb run by SGU and I can confirm it is a silly rumour with no truth in it. Cat 4 will remain 21-28 for men.
bernix
Challenge Tour Pro
Re: Max Handicap Changing
Down here we start with a HCP of 45 (!) for men and women alike, but competitions are held in handicap groups because I can never compete with a newbie who nets 50 stableford points that would mean that I have to play a gross 69
Down here we start with a HCP of 45 (!) for men and women alike, but competitions are held in handicap groups because I can never compete with a newbie who nets 50 stableford points that would mean that I have to play a gross 69
