Match play - Conceding a putt

[swanny32]

Right, I think I know the answer to this already but want to clear it up.

Pairs betterball - Player has a 1 foot putt left, opposing team ask what the putt is for, and he responds "Birdie" so the opposing team give him the putt and they all pick up and walk to the next hole as they had a 15 footer for par.

On the way, one of the players on the opposing team questions whether it was actually a birdie putt and not a par putt. Player counts up and realises it was actually a par putt meaning that the other team actually had a putt for a half.

What's the ruling??

 

[Tommo21]

Right, I think I know the answer to this already but want to clear it up.

Pairs betterball - Player has a 1 foot putt left, opposing team ask what the putt is for, and he responds "Birdie" so the opposing team give him the putt and they all pick up and walk to the next hole as they had a 15 footer for par.

On the way, one of the players on the opposing team questions whether it was actually a birdie putt and not a par putt. Player counts up and realises it was actually a par putt meaning that the other team actually had a putt for a half.

What's the ruling??

Too late....

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Did they give the other putt - I expect by the rules it will still be a win for them but I would hope the gentleman sportsmanship rears it's head and you agreed on a half

 

[swanny32]

Didn't involve me, this happened to some friends on Sunday. All 4 playing are friends and it seems to be hanging over them a bit with one side feeling bad for their error in saying it was a birdie putt when it wasn't and winning the hole, then the others feel aggrieved because they lost the hole.

 

[swanny32]

Did they give the other putt - I expect by the rules it will still be a win for them but I would hope the gentleman sportsmanship rears it's head and you agreed on a half

The other putt wasn't given as they were all under the impression that the hole was birdied and there was a winner for that particular hole.

 

[srixon 1]

Whenever I play golf I always keep a track of my opponents score in my head. This way there can be no misunderstandings.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The other putt wasn't given as they were all under the impression that the hole was birdied and there was a winner for that particular hole.

Then i would have hoped the team would have said - lets half the hole then.

 

[swanny32]

Spur of the moment, they weren't really sure what to do so they continued having awarded the hole but it seems to be turning a bit sour. The team went on to win 3&1 so in the grand scheme of things it wouldn't have changed the outcome but still annoying for both parties.

 

[upsidedown]

Then i would have hoped the team would have said - lets half the hole then.

Is the right answer if it's a game between mates , committee for others

 

[bladeplayer]

Then i would have hoped the team would have said - lets half the hole then.

i would hope so too , no game of golf worth loosing friends over

be interested to hear off the rules Guru's tho can you do that ? is it within the rules to change the result of a hole by agreement ,that has already being decided thru play (tho incorrectly),, was the hole over and decided when both balls were picked up ?

 

[swanny32]

i would hope so too , no game of golf worth loosing friends over

be interested to hear off the rules Guru's tho can you do that ? is it within the rules to change the result of a hole by agreement ,that has already being decided thru play (tho incorrectly),, was the hole over and decided when both balls were picked up ?

Which is what I'm trying to get to...what is the actual ruling??

 

[Deleted member 17920]

I would have thought that the putt was conceded you cant go back. You also cant change the ruling on it and then each declare a half as that's breaking the rules and both pairs would then be disqualified as far as I am aware.
The right thing would have been for the next hole to be conceded after the tee shots to keep things sweet.

 

[duncan mackie]

when the player said his putt was for a birdie, and failed to correct this before the next stroke was conceeded or the opposition played a stroke, he gave wrong information and lost the hole.

 

[chrisd]

As transgressions of the rules can be overlooked by opponents in Matchplay I would have thought that on the walk to the next tee a half on the hole just played would have been settled upon and move on.

 

[swanny32]

when the player said his putt was for a birdie, and failed to correct this before the next stroke was conceeded or the opposition played a stroke, he gave wrong information and lost the hole.

Is that a real rule or your take on the situation??

 

[bladeplayer]

when the player said his putt was for a birdie, and failed to correct this before the next stroke was conceeded or the opposition played a stroke, he gave wrong information and lost the hole.

well hello ... fair Play Duncan , wow ...

 

[chrisd]

Is that a real rule or your take on the situation??

That is a real rule.

 

[chrisd]

The trouble is if someone doesn't know the rule, accepts the decision and posts up the result, they can't get it changed later when they learn they've been diddled unless they can prove that the transgressors knew they were breaking the rule and, effectively, deliberately cheated.

 

[swanny32]

I suppose it's too late now anyway but at least they know for the future.

 

[duncan mackie]

Is that a real rule or your take on the situation??

9-2 b, with 9-2/7 confirming that the concession of the putt is the same as the player making their next stroke.

9-2/9 tells us that if it was realised a few holes later the hole would still have been lost and the state of the match adjusted

9-2/10 tells us that even if the match was conceded on the basis of the incorrect information it would still be adjusted ie the concession wouldn't stand - right up until the result of the match is announced; then it can't be adjusted.