Masters on the Beeb
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Ah yeah, so it does, missed Ken's tweet. He did a good job last year. I enjoy listening to Zinger, Brown and Cotter. Even Alliss is entertaining to listen to, I'd rather listen to him than Mark Roe anyway.
All this split between who does the Masters better reminds me off the old days when the FA cup final was a big thing and both BBC and ITV would start there programmes and build up from mid-morning and can remember at school there always being a big debate on who did it better. For me it was BBC with FAM Cup Mastermind and supporters Its a Knockout
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Wayne Grady for me was superb - one of the best golf commentators out there , excellent - shame he retired but thought Azinger was a great replacement for him last year , it’s far better having commentators that have actually done it on the big stage
I agree with the later paragraphs, but you forget to mention that the bbc gave up the open a year early when they had in on contract. They chose not to have it as it wasn’t financially viable even at their current rates. So whilst I’m sire they’d love it, sport is a business and they’re (golf associations) aren’t gonna hand it to them for peanuts so the bbc can simply ale a profit off of it.
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Are you kidding me.....how dare you belittle the great man
, I like Radar as an course commentator for the golf - his "Round with Radar" episodes for Ping are also great fun. All kidding aside, Butch does a pretty good analysis too, and is suprisingly unbiased against the Americans. I also think Rich Beem, David Coulthart and Nick Dougherty do a good job, but SKY can do away with Roe, Lee, Holmes and McGinley.
I don't think it's a bad thing having coverage on the BEEB as well as SKY, neither is perfect but it offers choice to the viewer. You can take your pick on the one that annoys you the least.
, I like Radar as an course commentator for the golf - his "Round with Radar" episodes for Ping are also great fun. All kidding aside, Butch does a pretty good analysis too, and is suprisingly unbiased against the Americans. I also think Rich Beem, David Coulthart and Nick Dougherty do a good job, but SKY can do away with Roe, Lee, Holmes and McGinley. I don't think it's a bad thing having coverage on the BEEB as well as SKY, neither is perfect but it offers choice to the viewer. You can take your pick on the one that annoys you the least.
I think you mean Andrew Coltart, who does an expert commentary from on course.
David Coulthard is an overrated, in my opinion, Ex Formula 1 racing driver.
I think it’s common consensus on here that Roe should go, I am sick of hearing how every short chip / pitch is “really trickyâ€.
I like Butch Harmon, Nick Doughty is doing a great job, Rich Beem and Rob Lee are OK but Ewan Murray is a bit old school, patronising and heading the way of Critchley. Paul McGinley just grates on about Rory McIlroy, is he his love child or something ?
Be grateful they haven’t got Tony Johnstone or Sam Torrance doing commentary, every shot’s “a beautyâ€.
David Coulthard is an overrated, in my opinion, Ex Formula 1 racing driver.
I think it’s common consensus on here that Roe should go, I am sick of hearing how every short chip / pitch is “really trickyâ€.
I like Butch Harmon, Nick Doughty is doing a great job, Rich Beem and Rob Lee are OK but Ewan Murray is a bit old school, patronising and heading the way of Critchley. Paul McGinley just grates on about Rory McIlroy, is he his love child or something ?
Be grateful they haven’t got Tony Johnstone or Sam Torrance doing commentary, every shot’s “a beautyâ€.
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No mention of Coulthard, just Coulthart with an added "h", my bad
Butch, Radar, Beem and Dougherty are the highlights of the Sky team I think, I could listen to Butch commentate all day. Just a shame Mark Roe still has a job, he's dreadful.
I think Roe is perfect......
For the Trilby Tour.....
For the Trilby Tour.....
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Are you kidding me.....how dare you belittle the great man, I like Radar as an course commentator for the golf - his "Round with Radar" episodes for Ping are also great fun. All kidding aside, Butch does a pretty good analysis too, and is suprisingly unbiased against the Americans. I also think Rich Beem, David Coulthart and Nick Dougherty do a good job, but SKY can do away with Roe, Lee, Holmes and McGinley.
I don't think it's a bad thing having coverage on the BEEB as well as SKY, neither is perfect but it offers choice to the viewer. You can take your pick on the one that annoys you the least.
, I like Radar as an course commentator for the golf - his "Round with Radar" episodes for Ping are also great fun. All kidding aside, Butch does a pretty good analysis too, and is suprisingly unbiased against the Americans. I also think Rich Beem, David Coulthart and Nick Dougherty do a good job, but SKY can do away with Roe, Lee, Holmes and McGinley.I don't think it's a bad thing having coverage on the BEEB as well as SKY, neither is perfect but it offers choice to the viewer. You can take your pick on the one that annoys you the least.
Butch last offered an original insight about five years ago and is rapidly becoming Sky's equivalent to Alliss.
If only we could combine the best of the two teams and consign the rest to the Trilby Tour.
No mention of Coulthard, just Coulthart with an added "h", my bad
"also think Rich Beem, David Coulthart and.." when I think you meant Andrew Coltart
So that's an added "u", "h" and wrong christian name, 😜
Genuinely great that there'll be live coverage on the BBC.
However, I'll be watching Sky coverage. As I will this evening, and practically every other weekend of the year, so why change? It's great that the BBC are presenting an option for other non-regular golf watchers who ordinarily would not watch Sky Golf. I think Barbour is brilliant though as a an anchor, but Sky will have Butch, Radar, conversations with Claude Harman, and overall a better team.
However, I'll be watching Sky coverage. As I will this evening, and practically every other weekend of the year, so why change? It's great that the BBC are presenting an option for other non-regular golf watchers who ordinarily would not watch Sky Golf. I think Barbour is brilliant though as a an anchor, but Sky will have Butch, Radar, conversations with Claude Harman, and overall a better team.
I'll be in the mancave,now TV week pass from Wednesday pm fridge full and putting mat out for adbreak comps with the boys, agree Roe is dreadful but it's the masters! It's spring and the season really starts so I'm just happy it's that time of year! Sort of hoping Rory snags it just to get GS chat out if the way .Back to topic the beeb ,save for Ken on the course have lost it
I have to disagree regarding both Radar and Butch. Radar is no different to the BBC's on course offering other than he seems far more happy to, and perhaps licence to, describe it in any way he sees it and when the shot doesn't come off will describe what happened in a unique and (to me) funny way. Similarly Harmon offers some great insights to the technical aspects and also gives a small insight to what the players he and his son coach are working on. I find I could listen to Harmon talk about golf with ease.
I will agree that the likes of Roe and in the studio Holmes do nothing to enhance the presentation and both should definitely go. I'd also ditch McGinley but that aside I simply feel that the Sky offers a more varied, viewer friendly broadcast than the BBC version
I will agree that the likes of Roe and in the studio Holmes do nothing to enhance the presentation and both should definitely go. I'd also ditch McGinley but that aside I simply feel that the Sky offers a more varied, viewer friendly broadcast than the BBC version
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oops.....couldn't see my own wood for trees
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Except Butch hardly has a "stable" any longer and his son seems scared to criticise, particularly any of his clients.
Golf Monthly thinks it's an "incredible stable": https://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/ryder-cup/ryder-cup-blog/who-does-butch-harmon-coach-154048
But I accept Claude seems reluctant to criticise (hand that feeds the mouth etc.) but I still find it interesting to listen to him; I have heard Butch criticise DJ & Rick in commentary, particularly with shot selection and sometimes execution.
But I accept Claude seems reluctant to criticise (hand that feeds the mouth etc.) but I still find it interesting to listen to him; I have heard Butch criticise DJ & Rick in commentary, particularly with shot selection and sometimes execution.