M1 hybrid idea

[chrisd]

I currently have a Taylormade M1 19* hybrid which is a wonderful club for me. I was contemplating buying a 17* version and knocking the loft down to the lowest setting to use in place of a 3 wood and especially using it off various tees, and maybe adding a degree of loft to the current one to cover various distances.

Has anyone tried knocking down a 17* M1 and, if so, how did it perform?

Thanks

 

[fundy]

I have the M1 17 degree, knocked down one notch (i think 0.75 degree), works fine for me and fills most of the gap between driver and 3 iron. Even with a low launch shaft it still launches at a good angle

 

[chrisd]

Cheers Fundy for a speedy answer

 

[fundy]

Only other comment Id add would be that historically having tried this there seems to be a minimum loft needed for swing speed on hybrids where turning it down anymore doesnt gain any extra distance (as it spins too low for the launch and doesnt carry enough).

May be worth trying the 19 on a launch monitor on its various loft settings and see if it gets you any difference

 

[Dan2501]

One of the lads at MCombination day did exactly that with those exact clubs. Instead of using a FW opted for 2 hybrids instead for the same reason. Can see his fitting here:

http://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/video...-woods-fitting-6-hcap-kevin-aitken?pid=136597

 

[chrisd]

Thank you guys, I'm doing the New Zealand meet tomorrow pm and we're stopping off at Silvermere so I might just try one out

 

[GreggerKBR]

I tried variations on this theme
(a) Dr, 3w, 5w, 23* Hyb then 5i-9i
then
(b) Dr, 3w, 17* Hyb, 22* Hyb, then 5i-9i

Currently
Dr, 3w (14.5*) then 19* Hyb, 4i-9i
This final choice is a lot to do with course management - giving me suitable options for my game on my home course.
When the course is firm/summer then I like a 4 iron over a replacement rescue/hybrid.

But, this is the key... I can (mostly) hit the shots (shape/trajectory) I generally want with the 3w, the HyB and a long iron.

If you struggle with fairway woods and/or long irons then definitely a two Hybrid bag would be helpful.

Good luck... half the game is confidence in what you have in the bag, if you can think/believe your setup is perfect... it'll do you well!

 

[duncan mackie]

I currently have a Taylormade M1 19* hybrid which is a wonderful club for me. I was contemplating buying a 17* version and knocking the loft down to the lowest setting to use in place of a 3 wood and especially using it off various tees, and maybe adding a degree of loft to the current one to cover various distances.

Has anyone tried knocking down a 17* M1 and, if so, how did it perform?

Thanks

Even without knocking it down I would expect it to provide you with a significant difference to you existing.

I play around with the settings on my old tn11 hybrids (the white to ones with slightly square toes) and the delofted 3 is as low as I can constructively use as I don't create the club head speed. I know yours is higher - hence the expectation!

 

[chrisd]

Even without knocking it down I would expect it to provide you with a significant difference to you existing.

I play around with the settings on my old tn11 hybrids (the white to ones with slightly square toes) and the delofted 3 is as low as I can constructively use as I don't create the club head speed. I know yours is higher - hence the expectation!

For me it's about a few holes particularly at the start of my round that I often use a driver but don't really need to. I had a lesson last week and my driver speed was 96 mph with a few changes of swing bedding in, so i reckon a delofted hybrid could just give a little bit more % accuracy and that my swing speed could handle, say, 16* of loft. I remember you saying at Cooden that I should be taking more accurate clubs for distance control especially off the tee

Cheers Duncan and Gregger for your input

 

[the_coach]

Thank you guys, I'm doing the New Zealand meet tomorrow pm and we're stopping off at Silvermere so I might just try one out

worthwhile trying them out on a launch monitor at the setting you looking at using

if you take the loft down on the 17º you also opening up the face angle - yep it has the weight slider bias - but always worth trying out to see what it does to starting direction & curvature & spin rate

conversely if you add loft you also closing up the face angle

 

[chrisd]

worthwhile trying them out on a launch monitor at the setting you looking at using

if you take the loft down on the 17º you also opening up the face angle - yep it has the weight slider bias - but always worth trying out to see what it does to starting direction & curvature & spin rate

conversely if you add loft you also closing up the face angle

Spot on advice, I hope to try one tomorrow but I'm away after that for a couple of weeks so it'll wait till my return. Thanks Coach

 

[tugglesf239]

I have always struggled with 3 woods. Finally found one i can hit easily (Adams Tight lies ss 16 deg) however i dont think it is a good a club as my old Adams Pro Hybrid in 18.

The 18 degree Adams was genuinely capable of being within 15-20 yards of my previous 3 woods and probably as long as my current Tight lies. It was a monster but unfortunately i cracked the face open.

Been musing if i should get a 16 degree Hybrid as i feel more comfortable with hitting them than a wood. Long story short, finding a 16 degree that i actually wanted proved quite hard.

Took a punt on an X2 Hot Hybrid in 18 degree last night and just hope it can perform the same (or better) as my old Adams. Its the same shaft so i cant see why why it wont.

Give it a try is my advice

 

[chrisd]

I had the X2 hot rescue and a great club it is, just not as good as the TM!

 

[tugglesf239]

I had the X2 hot rescue and a great club it ism just not as good as the TM!

I received a brand new M1 2017 as a replacement for the broken Adams and honestly i was not a fan. I never hit the new one but i did have a shot of my mates to test. Felt very light head to toe and a bit clicky off the face.

Horses for courses and all that though

 

[chrisd]

I received a brand new M1 2017 as a replacement for the broken Adams and honestly i was not a fan. I never hit the new one but i did have a shot of my mates to test. Felt very light head to toe and a bit clicky off the face.

Horses for courses and all that though

I thought the same with the M1 Hybrid and the M2 driver but once I hit them properly I loved 'em

 

[duncan mackie]

.... I remember you saying at Cooden that I should be taking more accurate clubs for distance control especially off the tee

Cheers Duncan and Gregger for your input

Cooden is one of those brilliantly designed courses that let you consider risk reward from nearly every single tee through a combination of hazard placement and not overly long holes ie you do have a realistic choice! On such courses if a hazard is placed at 230 you can take a 215 club and, effectively, double the fairway width. Obviously most on these forums would simply take their 4 iron and take on the full carry....

I don't personally see a whole lot more accuracy from a 16 degree hybrid over an equivilent 4(?) wood in normal conditions - but in dry running conditions it is more likely to hold its line (assuming you hit it on line

Then again it's always fun to try different clubs and approaches!

 

[chrisd]

Cooden is one of those brilliantly designed courses that let you consider risk reward from nearly every single tee through a combination of hazard placement and not overly long holes ie you do have a realistic choice! On such courses if a hazard is placed at 230 you can take a 215 club and, effectively, double the fairway width. Obviously most on these forums would simply take their 4 iron and take on the full carry....

I don't personally see a whole lot more accuracy from a 16 degree hybrid over an equivilent 4(?) wood in normal conditions - but in dry running conditions it is more likely to hold its line (assuming you hit it on line

Then again it's always fun to try different clubs and approaches!

I'm better of the deck with a hybrid than a fairway wood and figure they're also more versatile. On shorter par 4's my thinking is, if I can hit 220 yards with my hybrid safely, but leave less than 170 in to the green then its a less risky and worth the lay up but its how long a 2nd i got to hit, is often the deciding factor

 

[S17er]

I used to have a Ping G10 15 deg hybrid which was brilliant for drilling low shots into the wind but would hook wildly for me if I did not put a good swing on it.

Often think about buying this club back now I am a better player as I don't think I would have the wild hook issue anymore.

Does seem strange how most manufacturers don't make hybrids with this loft.

 

[chrisd]

I used to have a Ping G10 15 deg hybrid which was brilliant for drilling low shots into the wind but would hook wildly for me if I did not put a good swing on it.

Often think about buying this club back now I am a better player as I don't think I would have the wild hook issue anymore.

Does seem strange how most manufacturers don't make hybrids with this loft.

I agree, a 16* hybrid off a tee is surely not an impossible club to hit ok and would be an ideal lay up club on most short par 4's

 

[spongebob59]

Have you considered something like the Taylormade udi ?