Local pub closed

[Rooter]

So I used to frequent this local pub a lot, it was a great place to go, always people to talk to, debate stuff, learn new things. Even managed to buy a car cheap off someone there once.

Anyway, after a while the atmosphere started to change, the bar staff kept getting attitude from some of the regulars, so they had to employ door staff. Then after a while, the door staff started getting attitude too, so they had to get a bit heavier handed by dishing out short term barrings, some people then even got barred for life, but that's life, people in life come and go, and if they can't get along and play nicely they didn't deserve to be in there. It had started to become a bit of a lottery as to what the atmosphere was going to be like, some days it was great, but other times it was just full of people moaning about anything from the decor to the attitude of the door staff to the cost of a pint. Yeh sure, some people moaned to the bar staff about some of the punters, but common sense prevailed for a while as everyone was an adult about things,

Anyway (part 2) the owners of the pub started to think deep down, is this grief worth all the hassle? Yeh it's sometimes a great place to be and most of the time everyone gets on great and we all have a great time, but it became too much. Life was too short for the owner whom had vested interests, so he decided to call it a day. To him, it was not the end of the world, but to the regulars whom had always got along and grew to love the place, it was a real shame.

Moral of the story? Pubs shut down if you don't respect the owners, the pub rules and the other customers, make their life difficult and the fun will disappear and it will become too much of a pain in the you know what to continue, so they will close their doors for good.

 

[User20205]

Can't believe you wasted 15 mins of your life on this allegorical nonsense

Shouldn't you be making another baby??


Edit, it's actually quite good, and may go over some people's head. Maybe change from pub to motorbike forum

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I don't think this analogy is about a pub, it's about a golf forum

 

[User20205]

I don't think this analogy is about a pub, it's about a golf forum

That's a relief. It sounds like a rubbish pub. You can't ignore the needs of your core customers

 

[Pin-seeker]

Nice Analogy,but surely pubs close down due to lack of custom. Maybe the Landlord will get his own way & any one slightly out spoken will go else where.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Our village pub closed because the owners were rubbish managers who did not have a clue about customers requirements..

The new owners have a much better idea of their customers needs and are very successful.

 

[Hacker Khan]

So I used to frequent this local pub a lot, it was a great place to go, always people to talk to, debate stuff, learn new things. Even managed to buy a car cheap off someone there once.

Anyway, after a while the atmosphere started to change, the bar staff kept getting attitude from some of the regulars, so they had to employ door staff. Then after a while, the door staff started getting attitude too, so they had to get a bit heavier handed by dishing out short term barrings, some people then even got barred for life, but that's life, people in life come and go, and if they can't get along and play nicely they didn't deserve to be in there. It had started to become a bit of a lottery as to what the atmosphere was going to be like, some days it was great, but other times it was just full of people moaning about anything from the decor to the attitude of the door staff to the cost of a pint. Yeh sure, some people moaned to the bar staff about some of the punters, but common sense prevailed for a while as everyone was an adult about things,

Anyway (part 2) the owners of the pub started to think deep down, is this grief worth all the hassle? Yeh it's sometimes a great place to be and most of the time everyone gets on great and we all have a great time, but it became too much. Life was too short for the owner whom had vested interests, so he decided to call it a day. To him, it was not the end of the world, but to the regulars whom had always got along and grew to love the place, it was a real shame.

Moral of the story? Pubs shut down if you don't respect the owners, the pub rules and the other customers, make their life difficult and the fun will disappear and it will become too much of a pain in the you know what to continue, so they will close their doors for good.

I am interested in this pub owner who thinks that he is doing everyone a favour by opening a pub and the punters should be grateful to him. Where as a lot of people may argue that the punters are doing them a favour by paying his or her wages and keeping them in business by frequenting the establishment? As I would not have thought that pub owner would be a particularly successful business person with that attitude to their customers

After all, nowadays people have a lot of choice over where they spend their hard earned and increasingly reducing disposable income.

 

[DappaDonDave]

The more individual drinkers the pub gets the more profit they make. If a few regulars who pop in for a pint and stay for hours only buying a bag of nuts die or stop attending the pub. It is not a severe loss to the pub owners, it's the footfall through the door which counts.

If for example your town had a pub chart, and when someone looked for pubs on this chart, one pub came out on top. That would increase unique individual drinkers attending the pub.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

When I did customer care training I used to ask staff to compare a rough, dirty old packed pub against a posh, spotlessly clean empty one.

Bottom line was that the most important thing about customer care is the the customer returns.

 

[Iaing]

I don't tend to frequent pubs who have heavies on the door.
It doesn't make for a good atmosphere. Especially when one punter gets away with threatening behaviour, whilst others have been banned for merely talking too loudly.

 

[virtuocity]

Whisky Tango Foxtrot was that????

 

[blackpuddinmonster]

Whilst i agree with the poster who thinks heavies give a bad impression of the establishment, in reality, if they are doing their jobs correctly, there should be less trouble, not more.
The real problems always seam to start when the landlord decides they are going to clean the place up, or change its style. This is never going to go down well with all the regulars. Although some may well wecome change.
People can't blame the landlord for being perceptive enougth to realise their future success depends on new footfall just as much as it does on keeping their bread & butter trade happy. If a few rowdy regulars are stopping new people, or future regulars, from frequenting an establishment then in my oppinion it makes sound buisness sense to first warn, then if unheaded ban, the trouble causers.
It is after all a "public" house, not a private club.

 

[bluewolf]

Hang on a minute. I have a suspicion that we're not talking about a real pub here!!!

 

[One Planer]

Thing is, as with anything in life, it comes down to choice.

Choice

Pronouned - CHois

Noun

An act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities.

Adjective
(esp. of food) Of very good quality.

Noun.
selection - option - pick - election - assortment

Adjective.
select - selected - picked - chosen - exquisite

As per the dictionary definition of the word choice, I'm pretty sure there would be other 'pubs' around that could be frequented that offer a similar atmostphere, with the bar staff there being just as friendly as the affore mentioned?

As I said in my opening line, it comes down to choice.

You don't have to drink in that 'pub', you choose to and because you choose to, you accept what the landlord sets down as his rules. Very basic, rudimentary rules designed so everyone enjoys his establishment. Heck, he even lets you go straight to him with a problem.

That's your choice ,to either accpet his rules, or find another 'pub' where the land lords rules are more suited to your taste.

Your other choice, as mentioned above, is to try another pub . The atmostphere may be different, may be better, may be worse. The locals may be just as friendly, they may not. They may not get the number of visitors your current 'pub' does, making the atmostphere a little dull. That's the nature of 'pubs' unfortunatley. They all vary based on the people that visit them.

It really is that simple for me. If you like the place, and can abide by the landlords, pretty simple rules, stick around.

If you don't/can't accept how the landlord wants to keep and run his 'pub', that's absolutely fine and your choice. Find and frequent another 'pub' rather than ruining the atmostphere for the people who do enjoy the way it's kept and ran.

 

[richy]

What was the landlords name? Was it Mick by any chance?

 

[DappaDonDave]

What was the landlords name? Was it Mick by any chance?

HikeM I believe...

 

[bladeplayer]

I am interested in this pub owner who thinks that he is doing everyone a favour by opening a pub and the punters should be grateful to him. Where as a lot of people may argue that the punters are doing them a favour by paying his or her wages and keeping them in business by frequenting the establishment? As I would not have thought that pub owner would be a particularly successful business person with that attitude to their customers

After all, nowadays people have a lot of choice over where they spend their hard earned and increasingly reducing disposable income.

This analogy of yours doesn't work tho HK , becase..
How are you paying THIS pub owners wages ?

what are you being charged for or how do you pay for the upkeep of THIS pub?

How much free drink did THIS pub give away ?

How many pubs can you languish for hours in talking nonscence and not spend a £ or contribute much to, and still be welcome every time ..

If you insult the security in a real pub at least you have to do it to their faces . and yes you will get barred ..(trust me i am one )

The bit you do have right tho is

"After all, nowadays people have a lot of choice over where they spend their hard earned and increasingly reducing disposable income."

anyone that want to go im fairly sure are free to leave ...

If you decide for the greater good to open a free pub with free drinks & food , with no closing times , then you decide who drinks there and how they behave when they are there and if you dont like it YOU leave, and leave the free pub to those who want to respect it ..

if the owner needs staff to mind his pub then they implement the OWNERS rules , again if you dont like that LEAVE ..

If you think some of the staff are wrong or out of line , have a word with the owner not fellow customers , he seemingly has an email address

END OF ..

 

[brendy]

Well said Bill,
I was going to post asking how many pubs can you go into that costs you nothing and the landlord frequently gives out money cant buy opportunities/freebies only to have some of the regulars whine about not being given free run of the place.
There are plenty of other "pubs" where you can and will be welcome to run off whatever you want to say. You get it, I get it, the majority of guys on here get it....

This analogy of yours doesn't work tho HK , becase..
How are you paying THIS pub owners wages ?

what are you being charged for or how do you pay for the upkeep of THIS pub?

How much free drink did THIS pub give away ?

How many pubs can you languish for hours in talking nonscence and not spend a £ or contribute much to, and still be welcome every time ..

If you insult the security in a real pub at least you have to do it to their faces . and yes you will get barred ..(trust me i am one )

The bit you do have right tho is

"After all, nowadays people have a lot of choice over where they spend their hard earned and increasingly reducing disposable income."

anyone that want to go im fairly sure are free to leave ...

If you decide for the greater good to open a free pub with free drinks & food , with no closing times , then you decide who drinks there and how they behave when they are there and if you dont like it YOU leave, and leave the free pub to those who want to respect it ..

if the owner needs staff to mind his pub then they implement the OWNERS rules , again if you dont like that LEAVE ..

If you think some of the staff are wrong or out of line , have a word with the owner not fellow customers , he seemingly has an email address

END OF ..

 

[CMAC]

This analogy of yours doesn't work tho HK , becase..
How are you paying THIS pub owners wages ?

what are you being charged for or how do you pay for the upkeep of THIS pub?

How much free drink did THIS pub give away ?

How many pubs can you languish for hours in talking nonscence and not spend a £ or contribute much to, and still be welcome every time ..

If you insult the security in a real pub at least you have to do it to their faces . and yes you will get barred ..(trust me i am one )

The bit you do have right tho is

"After all, nowadays people have a lot of choice over where they spend their hard earned and increasingly reducing disposable income."

anyone that want to go im fairly sure are free to leave ...

If you decide for the greater good to open a free pub with free drinks & food , with no closing times , then you decide who drinks there and how they behave when they are there and if you dont like it YOU leave, and leave the free pub to those who want to respect it ..

if the owner needs staff to mind his pub then they implement the OWNERS rules , again if you dont like that LEAVE ..

If you think some of the staff are wrong or out of line , have a word with the owner not fellow customers , he seemingly has an email address

END OF ..

excellent post:thup:

 

[dufferman]

Maybe those people who didn't like the way the pub was being run should have opened their own pub and just buggered off?