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Joe Kinnear Resigns
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In_The_Rough
Tour Winner
Been hounded out has he after Saturdays shambolic efforts. He was always on a hiding to nothing. They were wanting him out the day he arrived. Only in Newcastle the Prems longest running soap opera.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Probably because there didn't seem to be any need for him to be there in the first place. So 'justifying' hid position was only ever going to cause friction. A rumbling appendix as far as I could see!
In_The_Rough
Tour Winner
No there was no need for him to be there I agree. Point I am making is that there is always something going off, players fighting with each other on the pitch, Keegan coming and going, fan protests against Cashley, brawling with the fuzz after the Sunderland game last season. It is never dull
Foxholer
Blackballed
Oh yes. There's plenty of that!
Once heard them described as 'a big club with aspirations of/to be a small club!' - and that was by a supporter, a Geordie no less!
Can't doubt the loyalty of their supporters though - even be Football standards!
Once heard them described as 'a big club with aspirations of/to be a small club!' - and that was by a supporter, a Geordie no less!
Can't doubt the loyalty of their supporters though - even be Football standards!
In_The_Rough
Tour Winner
Lack of loyalty is one thing they cannot be accused of up there. I would just like to see them have a nice period of stability for a change.
Agree their support is outstanding, i think half of the problem is that they're still convinced they're a big club. They spent a few seasons near the top, but the history suggests that although a VERY popular club, they aren't particularly great. They get restless when they don't succeed and blame Ashley etc, yet he took them when in financial trouble after the "glory" years and having sorted them out financially via the championship. They're now on a steady footing.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Well, if attendances at games is the metric, then they are!
Indeed, after all the 'classless', 'cheapo' jibes that were sent Ashley's way - and a few controversial decisions (Kinnear being one of them), Ashley seems to have stabilised the club (or maybe the fiddles just haven't become public!). Pardew, who I had my doubts about, seems to have been great for them!
Indeed, after all the 'classless', 'cheapo' jibes that were sent Ashley's way - and a few controversial decisions (Kinnear being one of them), Ashley seems to have stabilised the club (or maybe the fiddles just haven't become public!). Pardew, who I had my doubts about, seems to have been great for them!
richy
Journeyman Pro
Good, I'm glad he's gone. "Judge me on my signings". What signings??? All he was there for was to deflect **** away from Ashley when we didn't sign any one. Strange how he's left just after the transfer window has closed. He'll probably come back in the summer.
All kinnear did was undermine Pardew who's been managing with one hand tied behind his back.
I know Ashley has stabilised the club financially but you don't pay hundreds of pounds for a season ticket to watch the books being balanced. You want to watch good players on the pitch and the team performing.
All kinnear did was undermine Pardew who's been managing with one hand tied behind his back.
I know Ashley has stabilised the club financially but you don't pay hundreds of pounds for a season ticket to watch the books being balanced. You want to watch good players on the pitch and the team performing.
Thats a fair point, but without him being prudent you may have been watching a team not in the prem?
richy
Journeyman Pro
We did for a season
Foxholer
Blackballed
Probably the Anthem of a true Fan - of any club!
Seems to me this attitude is a major part of why players are on such ridiculous wages these days. And why the application of FFP rules is so important!
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
Amen. It had a tape recording on TS of Joe Kinnear from when he was appointed, bragging that he can "pick up the phone and be on good speaking terms with the managers in all 4 English divisions". That is not the market Newcastle are or should be in. Your lucky if one good player can be identified from the Championship and make it in the prem these days, never mind Div1 and Div 2 - yes Joe, but how are you on speaking terms with European/African/South American managers, as that is what should be your market place. Joke of an appointment, by a joke of an owner.
One Planer
Global Moderator
What was the excuse for some of Damien Comolli signings then :smirk:
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
Some woeful ones (or even if not woeful, paid far too much for them), i.e. Carroll and Downing. That said, he did sign Suarez, Henderson is improving and I think he signed Bale for Spurs, so mixed results, if the Bale thing is true. Kinnear signed no-one a 100% success rate, then!:whoo:
One Planer
Global Moderator
I'll grant you Suarez :thup:
Carrol, Adam, Bellamy, Downing, Henderson, Coates and Enrique are not what you would call "Top-4" club players.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
I beg to differ, Leicester and Forest would take some of them off your hands for free.
And we weren't consistently a top four team when Commolli was there.
Khamelion
Tour Winner
Mike Ashley may have cleared the club of its debt and put it on a sound financial footing, but that money has come out of Ashley's pocket. First and foremost he is a business man and out to make a profit where he can and pretty successful he is with it, just look at Soccer sports. However he runs Newcastle as a business which he wants out of, his heart now lies in Rangers for which he has a stake.
So to the casual observer it would appear that all Askley is doing is trying to recoup some of the cash he's ploughed into the club in readiness for his departure. If a buyer came in tomorrow and offered the valuation that he has on the club and to pay him back his investment, he would be off so fast the door wouldn't be closed before he was past Hadrian's wall.
While many outside of Newcastle may think he's been good for the club, as I wrote above he's treating the club like soccer sports, buy cheap and sell dear, just look a Cabaye, bought for 4.5 million reportedly sold for in excess of 20million, businessman yes and a good one, football club owner yes, but a bad one.
So to the casual observer it would appear that all Askley is doing is trying to recoup some of the cash he's ploughed into the club in readiness for his departure. If a buyer came in tomorrow and offered the valuation that he has on the club and to pay him back his investment, he would be off so fast the door wouldn't be closed before he was past Hadrian's wall.
While many outside of Newcastle may think he's been good for the club, as I wrote above he's treating the club like soccer sports, buy cheap and sell dear, just look a Cabaye, bought for 4.5 million reportedly sold for in excess of 20million, businessman yes and a good one, football club owner yes, but a bad one.
In_The_Rough
Tour Winner
While many outside of Newcastle may think he's been good for the club, as I wrote above he's treating the club like soccer sports, buy cheap and sell dear, just look a Cabaye, bought for 4.5 million reportedly sold for in excess of 20million, businessman yes and a good one, football club owner yes, but a bad one.[/QUOTE]
Seems like good scouting to me. With regards to buyer giving him his valuation then he would be off, that could apply to an awful lot of owners in Football and outside of as well. Which would you rather have though somebody like Ridsdale who thought Leeds were comparable with Real Madrid and lumbered with massive debts or somebody that runs it to at least break even. Unless a Sheik/Oligarch comes in for Newcastle I would stick with what you have, the grass is not always greener.
Seems like good scouting to me. With regards to buyer giving him his valuation then he would be off, that could apply to an awful lot of owners in Football and outside of as well. Which would you rather have though somebody like Ridsdale who thought Leeds were comparable with Real Madrid and lumbered with massive debts or somebody that runs it to at least break even. Unless a Sheik/Oligarch comes in for Newcastle I would stick with what you have, the grass is not always greener.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Great lark top level football management - get paid shed loads of money - mess things up (in someone's opinion) or do bug all - get the boot - get another job - get paid shed loads of money - mess things up...
Bit like being a top level banker really
Bit like being a top level banker really
