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First country to actually vote to allow equality in marriage. I must admit to being a little surprised as I thought the church might have held enough sway to put the kibosh on it (shows what I know!) :)

A resounding victory or does the 'just over 60% turnout' leave room for a future campaign to reverse the result in the future?

Another sign of religion being out of touch with the majority?
 
c1973 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32858501


First country to actually vote to allow equality in marriage. I must admit to being a little surprised as I thought the church might have held enough sway to put the kibosh on it.

A resounding victory or does the 'just over 60% turnout' leave room for a future campaign to reverse the result in the future?

Another sign of religion being out of touch with the majority?
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I would say that a 60% turnout in any vote is pretty decent and, no, there can't be any reason to reverse the decision IMO. For the record, I'd have voted YES too, I fail to see why marriage can only be between a man and a woman
 
c1973 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32858501


First country to actually vote to allow equality in marriage. I must admit to being a little surprised as I thought the church might have held enough sway to put the kibosh on it (shows what I know!) :)

A resounding victory or does the 'just over 60% turnout' leave room for a future campaign to reverse the result in the future?

Another sign of religion being out of touch with the majority?
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Ireland has changed a lot in recent years and is a pretty progressive society nowadays. I would imagine that the percentage in favour will only grow as many of the remaining opponents see that the world doesn't implode as a result.

As is usually the case, people who feel strongly against tend to turn out in decent numbers, but people are entitled not to bother.

It is no secret that the majority no longer respect the Church as they once did, and many who still go to Mass do so out of habit or tradition rather than faith.
 
Ethan said:
Ireland has changed a lot in recent years and is a pretty progressive society nowadays. I would imagine that the percentage in favour will only grow as many of the remaining opponents see that the world doesn't implode as a result.

As is usually the case, people who feel strongly against tend to turn out in decent numbers, but people are entitled not to bother.

It is no secret that the majority no longer respect the Church as they once did, and many who still go to Mass do so out of habit or tradition rather than faith.
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I kinda figured they had lost a fair bit of respect, but I also thought they might have still held just enough sway to influence the masses.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out with the more conservative priests when it comes to conducting the service. I'd imagine that there will still be a few that will not want to carry out their duties as they'll think it's against their religious beliefs.
 
Good that they have allowed the public to decide.

Im guessing that they wont get married in a religious establishment and more in a registry office.
 
bladeplayer said:
Has nothing to do with church marriages mate , its civil marriage .. same technically as the civil marriage with a few changes
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Ah, I see.

First to admit I hadn't followed what was going on. I thought (wrongly it seems) that it meant church marriages would be on the cards.
 
It's good news. No one has ever put across a compelling case, religious or otherwise, against legitimising gay marriage. Any objection is based in bigotry IMO.
 
c1973 said:
Ah, I see.

First to admit I hadn't followed what was going on. I thought (wrongly it seems) that it meant church marriages would be on the cards.
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Nah mate that will never happen , no remarriages either even hetrosexual ones , Ireland is vastly changed mate , worst thing ya can be over here now is Irish ha ha

Most of the Irish cept maybe the older generation don't really care what goes on, live & let live , strange that tho we are broke have no health service etc we were the first to have a referendum at a large cost ,

If it caused problems for people which seemingly it did its sorted now , good luck to all who benefit from it,
 
bladeplayer said:
Nah mate that will never happen , no remarriages either even hetrosexual ones , Ireland is vastly changed mate , worst thing ya can be over here now is Irish ha ha

Most of the Irish cept maybe the older generation don't really care what goes on, live & let live , strange that tho we are broke have no health service etc we were the first to have a referendum at a large cost ,

If it caused problems for people which seemingly it did its sorted now , good luck to all who benefit from it,
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Indeed. :thup:
 
therod said:
It's good news. No one has ever put across a compelling case, religious or otherwise, against legitimising gay marriage. Any objection is based in bigotry IMO.
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You may be correct in your opinion Sir, then again you may not be! To suggest that any objection is based on bigotry is in it's self bigoted. It dismisses another's right to form an opinion contrary to your own.

Replace 10 divots and repair 20 pitch marks in penance.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I would expect most "forward thinking" countries have legalise dit over the past decade.
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Yes but no government has ever trusted the people to make the call. This is a world first and a massive statement. Even Donegal came out marginally in favour. This was an area expected to see a NO vote.

I just hope my little nation of six counties follow suit. The only six counties in the UK & Ireland that have to but gay marriage on the same legal footing as a straight marriage. The election system is not conducive to allowing people to elect a representative that will represent their views on this matter.

Best thing about this vote. Once all the i's are dotted and t's crossed it will take another referendum to overturn it. Can't be touched otherwise.
 
palindromicbob said:
Yes but no government has ever trusted the people to make the call. This is a world first and a massive statement. Even Donegal came out marginally in favour. This was an area expected to see a NO vote.

I just hope my little nation of six counties follow suit. The only six counties in the UK & Ireland that have to but gay marriage on the same legal footing as a straight marriage. The election system is not conducive to allowing people to elect a representative that will represent their views on this matter.

Best thing about this vote. Once all the i's are dotted and t's crossed it will take another referendum to overturn it. Can't be touched otherwise.
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It wasn't a government decision to trust the people. Allowing gay marriage is a change in constitution and Irish law says they can only change it with a referendum.
 
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