Inactive handicap getting renewed question?

[Alex1975]

Hi All,

I let my handicap go inactive last year as I left the club. I am now back and have to put three cards in. My buddy tells me that they will not give me a higher handicap than I had last time no matter what the state of the cards I put in. Is this true? Will they look at my last handicap when making my new one?

thx

Alex

 

[woody69]

Hi All,

I let my handicap go inactive last year as I left the club. I am now back and have to put three cards in. My buddy tells me that they will not give me a higher handicap than I had last time no matter what the state of the cards I put in. Is this true? Will they look at my last handicap when making my new one?

thx

Alex

I do not know for certain as I think it differs from club to club, but I believe they will take what your cards say primarily, but if there is a big difference between that and your previous handicap, they may well adjust it to be closer to that. It's up to you to speak to the handicap secretary/pro though and discuss I think.

 

[Alex1975]

I do not know for certain as I think it differs from club to club, but I believe they will take what your cards say primarily, but if there is a big difference between that and your previous handicap, they may well adjust it to be closer to that. It's up to you to speak to the handicap secretary/pro though and discuss I think.

No need for that, I will take whatever they give me, I am just interested.

 

[pbrown7582]

If it was within 6 months you don't need to put 3 cards in, you can reactive previous handicap.
The handicap should be allocated off your cards but taking into account your previous history you have told them about.
It is possible to get a higher handicap.

 

[Alex1975]

Thank you, I guess I better put some good cards in and make sure...

 

[Colin L]

The individual club is not given any choice in the matter. If it is less than 6 months since a player left his/her club, the handicap must be restored as it was. Over 6 months, the previous handicap must be taken into account together with the outcome of the 3 submitted cards.

 

[Alex1975]

The individual club is not given any choice in the matter. If it is less than 6 months since a player left his/her club, the handicap must be restored as it was. Over 6 months, the previous handicap must be taken into account together with the outcome of the 3 submitted cards.

thanks its over 6 months...

 

[duncan mackie]

The individual club is not given any choice in the matter. If it is less than 6 months since a player left his/her club, the handicap must be restored as it was. Over 6 months, the previous handicap must be taken into account together with the outcome of the 3 submitted cards.

indeed

I think the confusion always arises when the question of what exactly does "the previous handicap must be taken into account together with the outcome of the 3 submitted cards" mean!

One easy interpretation is that the handicap allocated won't be less than the previous one (without extenuating circumstances) but may be less - another is a more litteral one that in arriving at a handicap allocation due consideration of the 3 cards and the previous handicap is made ie it could be higher depending on the relationship of the scores,the previous handicap and time period elapsed.

 

[rulefan]

This question was raised at an EG Handicap Advisors meeting yesterday.

When you left the club your handicap lapsed. It did not become Inactive but may have been already Inactive because you had not returned 3 Qualifying scores during the year (Jan - Dec).

If you rejoined or joined another club within 6 months, your handicap would be reinstated to its original value (including the Active/Inactive status). If it was Inactive, you would have to return 54 holes worth of cards (9 or 18 hole Qualifiers or 18 hole Supplementary scores) during the rest of the year to make it Active.

After 6 months you have to get a new handicap by submitting a minimum of 3 marked (18 hole) cards.
The handicap allocated must take account of your original handicap and any relevant circumstances (eg deteriorating health).

Whatever the status previously, the new handicap will not be Inactive.

Just a bit of info.
We have recommended that the status Active/Inactive be altered next year to match the Scottish nomenclature.

At present
blank = active, i = inactive.

Proposal
c = competition
blank = not classified or inactive (ie the player has not shown active competition play)

The conditions and effect would remain the same. Committees/clubs may allow or bar players from a competion without status 'c' handicaps at their discretion (as now).

 

[Colin L]

Just a bit of info.
We have recommended that the status Active/Inactive be altered next year to match the Scottish nomenclature.

We're always pleased to show the way. :thup:

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[duncan mackie]

This question was raised at an EG Handicap Advisors meeting yesterday.

When you left the club your handicap lapsed. It did not become Inactive but may have been already Inactive because you had not returned 3 Qualifying scores during the year (Jan - Dec).

If you rejoined or joined another club within 6 months, your handicap would be reinstated to its original value (including the Active/Inactive status). If it was Inactive, you would have to return 54 holes worth of cards (9 or 18 hole Qualifiers or 18 hole Supplementary scores) during the rest of the year to make it Active.

After 6 months you have to get a new handicap by submitting a minimum of 3 marked (18 hole) cards.
The handicap allocated must take account of your original handicap and any relevant circumstances (eg deteriorating health).

Whatever the status previously, the new handicap will not be Inactive.

Just a bit of info.
We have recommended that the status Active/Inactive be altered next year to match the Scottish nomenclature.

At present
blank = active, i = inactive.

Proposal
c = competition
blank = not classified or inactive (ie the player has not shown active competition play)

The conditions and effect would remain the same. Committees/clubs may allow or bar players from a competion without status 'c' handicaps at their discretion (as now).

in this area are there any concerns, or considerations, over the different approach (in Scotland) in going from blank to c going forwards?

 

[rulefan]

England are not proposing to follow the action Scotland takes, only change the current code and nomenclature.

Rightly or wrongly, the general view was that Scotland's approach was too harsh.
EG wants players to join clubs and get a handicap not deter them.

 

[duncan mackie]

England are not proposing to follow the action Scotland takes, only change the current code and nomenclature.

Rightly or wrongly, the general view was that Scotland's approach was too harsh.
EG wants players to join clubs and get a handicap not deter them.

thanks