Hybrids issue - I cant hit them!

[G1BB0]

After my recent swing meltdown on the Emerald Isle I have been hitting the range hard, working on grooving my swing/tempo

Anyway, driver is going great and 3 wood with my irons wedges even better. This is off mats and grass so not just a mat issue

The downside is I cant hit a hybrid! I am fatting them everytime. 4 iron is going like a bomb so cant understand why an easier to hit (imho) 4hybrid just will not work!

I know its a longer shaft than an iron so maybe thats the issue. now debating getting a 3iron and dropping hybrids altogether.

Anyone else been the same way?

 

[drdel]

Me too; replaced my 20 degree hybrid with 20 degree 3 iron and everything is rosy; must be in my head.

 

[duncan mackie]

Anyone else been the same way?

complete opposite

easy as anything to hit a consistent shot with a hybrid at the range relative to a 4i

easy as anything to hit a solid clean shot on the course with a hybrid - that it may be a little pushed, or have a tiny tiny draw is something I can live with off my handicap

4i on the course = stingray moments... "anything can happen in the next" etc

 

[G1BB0]

Duncan, used to be my favourite clubs, if I couldnt hit anything guaranteed I could with a hybrid. Wierd lol

 

[virtuocity]

Tried putting ball position back a good bit?

Also ensure that you're not trying to leather it by swaying back off the ball?

Had major issues with hybrids this year and these two things sorted me out. Was really annoying considering everyone goes on about how easy they are to hit. Ironically(?) I wasn't trying to hit them easily and this killed me.

 

[duncan mackie]

Duncan, used to be my favourite clubs, if I couldnt hit anything guaranteed I could with a hybrid. Wierd lol

Driving/driver used to be my (relatively) strongest part of game - right now I rarely carry one let alone use it!

I just hack round as best I can nowadays

 

[G1BB0]

I just hack round as best I can nowadays

same as and always will

 

[drdel]

"Hacking" is still fun _ I don't need to make a living playing golf (just as well) so the fun is in the trying and believe me it's trying !

 

[SAPCOR1]

Tried putting ball position back a good bit?

Also ensure that you're not trying to leather it by swaying back off the ball?

Had major issues with hybrids this year and these two things sorted me out. Was really annoying considering everyone goes on about how easy they are to hit. Ironically(?) I wasn't trying to hit them easily and this killed me.

Yup, play like an iron and not a wood

 

[wonga]

If you hit the hybrid in the exact same way you hit an iron you won't have a problem.

 

[JCW]

I had the same trouble , turns out i was trying to hit them like my driver which i hit great , long with a little draw , hit the club like an iron and now its fine , have a session down the range messing about with ball position and just hit down on the ball and see how the strike is and now worry about how high it goes , adjust as you go along

 

[the_coach]

There's about just a little over 1&1/4" in length difference, between a hybrid 4 BRZ S2, & a 4 TM TP CB, so no real big length difference.

You don't say how currently you either hit the 4i or 4h re set-up the intent of the swing.

But the 4h is more like the length of an iron than it is a 3metal, also the way the shaft enters the head is more like an iron than it is a 3metal with generally a little more of an iron like offset, plus the lie angle is nearer to a 4i than it is to a 3metal especialy when you factor in the extra shaft length of the 3metal.

Off the fairway better to approach playing the 4h like the long irons, so ball not as far forwards in the stance as you would for a 3metal, because of the length & lie of the 4h it's a naturally steeper swing, so hands should lead the clubhead with a forwards leading shaft, weight left, striking downwards & through impact, so not level & sweep. So ball contact first ground second. (the only time you might want the ball a little forwards with a hybrid with more of a sweep action is if the ball was sat up a little in the light first cut of rough, but in deeper rough & sat down & again it would be like an iron swing steeper ball first, not a sweep.)

One thing to watch out for at set-up with any hybrid, is make sure both the sole is grounded level & it is the bottom leading edge & grooves on the face your lining up at set-up.

If you address the ball with a hybrid toe up in any ways you'll see the face angle won't be pointing in the direction you think you're lining up to, that ways the face angle will be looking left, ball starts in the direction the face angle is looking at impact.
Conversely if it's heel up at address the face angle will be looking right a ways.

If you're more lining up with the top edge at the crown of the hybrid, with most hybrids that will mean the leading edge so face angle is again looking left at address not square to the target line, so likely it will be again looking left through impact.

 

[Rooter]

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[John Boy Saint]

I have a Wilson Fybrid 4, use to have a real stink with it when in long grass, just treat it like an iron now good as gold. Only the other day my Driving had gone to the dogs so I resorted to it as it was the only long weapon in the bag I could rely on. Just about to tee off and the boss questioned the ball position, "what? Nose, old chap. (Dangled the club from the end of my nose) middle of my stance" says I, re addressed the ball and larruped it down the fairway, to which he commented that he thought it should be further forward in my stance.......... but obviously not.

 

[ScienceBoy]

Iron = steel shaft- If your backswing is too fast and transition is too quick your club head doesnt go too far off line

Hybrid = Graphite shaft- much more affected by quick backswing and rushed transition.

This was the best bit of advice once I had added a little bit of width and shoulder turn to my swing for hitting better hybrids and woods.

 

[One Planer]

The simple solution to this is to buy a 3 and 4 iron.

eBay is your friend :thup:

 

[Oddsocks]

If you hit the hybrid in the exact same way you hit an iron you won't have a problem.

Obviously, he can hit the 4i he can't hit the hybrid. :rofl:

 

[Sweep]

I had this trouble and worked it out. As others have said, don't treat it like a wood. Try swinging easy and hitting down on the ball a little. Try to take a small divot after the ball. I found that by making a slightly steeper swing helped greatly in achieving a good strike and eradicated the hook that hybrids seem to inflict. Try gripping down the grip a little. Swing slowly with a nice even tempo. It's amazing how far they go when you swing slow. Good luck.

 

[Roops]

Nice thread. Since I started to have lessons and made a load of swing changes I totally lost my mojo with my hybrid. I need to go back to the range and work on getting back to a more downward, easy strike with my hybrid. Like the original poster, my 4 and 5 irons are going a treat, but to have the hybrid back working would be nice. Hello range........

 

[socky]

I had real prob with my hybrid, at best could only hit a massive block right, but then became slices, thins, fats.... everything!!! Was terrible.

It turned out I had my club face wide open at address and was doing all sorts of weird things through the strike trying to square the club face. All kinds of strange and bad impacts were the result.

I had to have the club face feeling like it was very closed to me at address to fix this, when I did though I found out just how easy a hybrid is, gets the ball up in the air and easy to hit out of so many lies.

Try using some blue-tac to stick a tee to the club face, will help you see where the club face is pointing at address.