How much did you cut?

[Floki]

Hi. Is it normal for shafts to come 2.8" to long? on the picture are my standard lengt hotmetal next to my uncut takomo i gonna build. Both nippon modus 105.
What's the point of ordering a set of 5-P shafts when you have to cut 2.8"? That's 8 grams. They are marketing as 106g shafts, but that's when they uncut. So is this normal and ppl just put in xtra weights?
Thanks

 

[rulie]

Shaft weight is typically the weight of the shaft before it is trimmed to the correct length for the club. You need to find the shaft trimming chart for your specific shafts - it's usually provided by the supplier. Swing weighting is done after the shaft has been cut to its desired length, usually done last, just before the head is glued to the shaft.

 

[PJ87]

Hi. Is it normal for shafts to come 2.8" to long? on the picture are my standard lengt hotmetal next to my uncut takomo i gonna build. Both nippon modus 105.
What's the point of ordering a set of 5-P shafts when you have to cut 2.8"? That's 8 grams. They are marketing as 106g shafts, but that's when they uncut. So is this normal and ppl just put in xtra weights?
Thanks
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Normally come that length so they can be cut to size but allow for custom fit ie 1 inch longer

 

[jim8flog]

I presume they are parallel tip shaft with .370 tips. They always come as one length (around 40") and you tip trim for the iron they are being fitted to (normally in half in steps for each change in head number), they are then but trimmed to the desired length. As each club gets longer i.e 7 iron against a 4 iron the further away from the hosel the trim is.

Swing weighting is normally done by extra weight in the head before fitting the shaft, although occasionally it might need extra weight at the butt end.

If the heads need .355 taper shafts each shaft is discrete to the iron it is going in and they are only butt trimmed.

This is for the Tour 105.

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[Floki]

Hi again! With 57g grip, modus 105S standard length and takomo 201 head, the sw on my Pw comes out at c8. My wedges are d5 and I want my pw to be at least d3. Is it a bad idea to put 10gram tipweight??

 

[Parsaregood]

Tip weighing makes clubs want to release around the axis of the shaft more as you are shifting the cg of the club toward the heel. 10g is a lot to add to a head. I wouldn’t personally tip weight - lead weight is a much better choice. Alternatively you could play around with lighter grips or play the clubs a little longer to get desired swing weight. You don’t want to make the total weight really heavy just to achieve an arbitrary swing weight. There are better ways to do it


I wouldn’t overly complicate it. Most folk cannot tell between numerous swing weight points. Obviously the better you are you are more likely to discern a difference but you will get used to it. Bryson plays with something like a c8/9 swing weight.

 

[jim8flog]

To be that far out in the first instance did you trim the shaft correctly?
The heaviest weight I have ever put in is around 3g.

I would try it see how you get on with it and as per Pars add lead tape to the back off the head bit by bit.

 

[Floki]

Tip weighing makes clubs want to release around the axis of the shaft more as you are shifting the cg of the club toward the heel. 10g is a lot to add to a head. I wouldn’t personally tip weight - lead weight is a much better choice. Alternatively you could play around with lighter grips or play the clubs a little longer to get desired swing weight. You don’t want to make the total weight really heavy just to achieve an arbitrary swing weight. There are better ways to do it


I wouldn’t overly complicate it. Most folk cannot tell between numerous swing weight points. Obviously the better you are you are more likely to discern a difference but you will get used to it. Bryson plays with something like a c8/9 swing weight.

Thanks! I should probably have a heavier shaft in the Pw. And you are right, 2 weeks ago I knew nothing about club/swingweight lol, but have read to much about it..I have 2 sets before these, and both shafts are lighter and the total weight is lighter, but they all on about D2..the total weight on theses now are heavier but lower swingweight. Probably because of the grips are heavier

 

[Floki]

To be that far out in the first instance did you trim the shaft correctly?
The heaviest weight I have ever put in is around 3g.

I would try it see how you get on with it and as per Pars add lead tape to the back off the head bit by bit.

I cut 2.8" on every shaft to make them standard like my old set. Because grip being heavier, they all came out about D0, except the PW who came C8..maybe the head was diffrent on this..anyway i decide will not put in alot of weights to compensate for the heavy grips. But I will put in 4 gram in the PW to get to D0 at least.

 

[jim8flog]

I cut 2.8" on every shaft to make them standard like my old set. Because grip being heavier, they all came out about D0, except the PW who came C8..maybe the head was diffrent on this..anyway i decide will not put in alot of weights to compensate for the heavy grips. But I will put in 4 gram in the PW to get to D0 at least

Were the shafts .335 taper tip or .370 parallel (if the head has a .355 bore hosel a .370 shaft will not go in it however if it will if it is the other way round).

If they were .370 did you tip trim first? Half an inch per club starting with the 1/2 iron and taking off the half inch as you progressed with the irons. Each iron is then butt trimmed after fitting to the head to the desired length (half an inch difference in total length between each adjoining club).

 

[Parsaregood]

Wouldn’t use tip weights at all. Lead tape if you need to add weight for whatever reason. Biggest difference is shaft though because the weight is located at different points in different shafts it can affect swing weight. Find out what weight you get the best numbers with and stick with it. Lead tape allows you to add weight behind the sweet spot where you want it

 

[Floki]

Were the shafts .335 taper tip or .370 parallel (if the head has a .355 bore hosel a .370 shaft will not go in it however if it will if it is the other way round).

If they were .370 did you tip trim first? Half an inch per club starting with the 1/2 iron and taking off the half inch as you progressed with the irons. Each iron is then butt trimmed after fitting to the head to the desired length (half an inch difference in total length between each adjoining club).

355 taper shafts that came allreday roughly precut differ 0.5" from 5-P. Going into 370 hostel with brasshims.

 

[jim8flog]

355 taper shafts that came allreday roughly precut differ 0.5" from 5-P. Going into 370 hostel with brasshims.

Not sure how much difference it would make but taper shafts are normally constant weight whereas .370 shafts will get lighter the more you cut off..
Nippon recommend using heavier shafts in wedges.

I have them in my current irons up to 45degree (11 iron) but personally use a heavier shaft in wedges. I do find the flight fairly high compared to previous TTDG SL.