I’m not a great feel player so I learn to hit three distances my clubs.
I need to get on a distance device but IIRC my PW 3/4 was probably around 70ish.
I need to get on a distance device but IIRC my PW 3/4 was probably around 70ish.
How far do you hit your PW?
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i'm a member at a parkland course too and carry the same clubs there as i do at my home course, looks like we are in the minority
What clubs do you play and what is your handicap? I've just dropped the 4 and 5 irons for hybrids and really pleased with that decision
i just have the straight though MP 4 blades and hit the 4 iron as well as i hit the 5 or 6 for that matter, 3 if i'm honest i don't use that much unless its windy.
But have have to say when i had some GI irons i struggled with the chunkieness of them and hit the blade so much better, but i have also worked on hitting long irons in the past, used to reg just take a half set with no woods and hiiting lots of shots in a real game situation rather than at a range helped a hell of a lot. i could in the future see the drop of the 3 but never the 4...and it wouldn't be to put an extra wedge in either
But have have to say when i had some GI irons i struggled with the chunkieness of them and hit the blade so much better, but i have also worked on hitting long irons in the past, used to reg just take a half set with no woods and hiiting lots of shots in a real game situation rather than at a range helped a hell of a lot. i could in the future see the drop of the 3 but never the 4...and it wouldn't be to put an extra wedge in either
I’m not going to read all the responses but here’s my issue with loft cranking (a perspective from someone working in the industry).
Cranking lofts would be fine if distance wasn’t the main selling point for every single club. I recently saw Wilson doing a challenge to prove their 7iron went further than you existing one. It’s 27 degrees in loft.
Callaway are also making their clubs half an inch longer than standard now too - it’s blatantly misleading.
Someone that’s properly fitted does not need these extremely low lofts
Cranking lofts would be fine if distance wasn’t the main selling point for every single club. I recently saw Wilson doing a challenge to prove their 7iron went further than you existing one. It’s 27 degrees in loft.
Callaway are also making their clubs half an inch longer than standard now too - it’s blatantly misleading.
Someone that’s properly fitted does not need these extremely low lofts
Proper golfer then and so I can see how it makes sense to have the longer irons in the bag
iirc the TM 760 irons had a longer than standard shaft if bought off the shelf, so as to make them seem longer hitting clubs.
But of course that goes out the window if you have a CF, as the fitter should find the correct length shaft for you.
If and when I have fittings for irons I don't aim for longer shots, but more consistent distance, spin etc - not that I mind if a few more yards are added (it would probably make me actually hit the distances I think I do)
But of course that goes out the window if you have a CF, as the fitter should find the correct length shaft for you.
If and when I have fittings for irons I don't aim for longer shots, but more consistent distance, spin etc - not that I mind if a few more yards are added (it would probably make me actually hit the distances I think I do)
Everyone has different needs in a fitting. In general distance is a by product of a good fit, unless someone is getting sub optimal spin but enough to keep the ball in the air.
In a fitting you’ll rarely if ever hit the 4-5irons, so when someone takes delivery of their new set with an 22 degree 5 iron, chances are dispersion will be worse than their existing set.
I’m all for distance irons improving someone’s enjoyment for the game, but when someone is being fitted and sold on ‘we’ve improved your distance by 15 yards’ - it’s a con
In a fitting you’ll rarely if ever hit the 4-5irons, so when someone takes delivery of their new set with an 22 degree 5 iron, chances are dispersion will be worse than their existing set.
I’m all for distance irons improving someone’s enjoyment for the game, but when someone is being fitted and sold on ‘we’ve improved your distance by 15 yards’ - it’s a con
I hit mine 100 yards, 110 at a push. At 43° my cranked PW suits me fine. Granted I had to buy a gap wedge but the easy launching nature of the irons means that, at my advanced age, I can still hit a 4 iron. Unlike the OP I find the game hard enough with modern equipment & much more enjoyable.
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I got my Ping i500's last year in 4-PW
On topic, my PW carries 120 yards. I think it's 45°
On topic, my PW carries 120 yards. I think it's 45°
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I use a 47 degree wedge and hit it 137 average carry. Depends on which course I play and ground conditions to total distance.
This time of year off mats on soft greens by the time they stop spinning you've lost 5+ yards. In summer when they couldn't water greens and they resembled concrete they were bouncing 15 yards further than the carry it was painful.
This time of year off mats on soft greens by the time they stop spinning you've lost 5+ yards. In summer when they couldn't water greens and they resembled concrete they were bouncing 15 yards further than the carry it was painful.
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i just have the straight though MP 4 blades and hit the 4 iron as well as i hit the 5 or 6 for that matter, 3 if i'm honest i don't use that much unless its windy.
But have have to say when i had some GI irons i struggled with the chunkieness of them and hit the blade so much better, but i have also worked on hitting long irons in the past, used to reg just take a half set with no woods and hiiting lots of shots in a real game situation rather than at a range helped a hell of a lot. i could in the future see the drop of the 3 but never the 4...and it wouldn't be to put an extra wedge in either
But have have to say when i had some GI irons i struggled with the chunkieness of them and hit the blade so much better, but i have also worked on hitting long irons in the past, used to reg just take a half set with no woods and hiiting lots of shots in a real game situation rather than at a range helped a hell of a lot. i could in the future see the drop of the 3 but never the 4...and it wouldn't be to put an extra wedge in either
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So would you sooner play the clubs you'd really like or have an 8 handicap?
why wouldn't you be able to hit them??
i found them suprisingly forgiving, and when i switched from the GI 825 forged CB, i didn't lose any distance to the MP4
Unfortunately Mizuno have joined every other OEM and all the clubs including the MP are now 1/4 inch longer and more upright than they were, JPX rand went this way a couple of years ago.
any Mizuno club of the old spec suited me fine and could just buy off the shelf or SH, which is how i also ended up witha set of MP57, MP37 and MP62
i found them suprisingly forgiving, and when i switched from the GI 825 forged CB, i didn't lose any distance to the MP4
Unfortunately Mizuno have joined every other OEM and all the clubs including the MP are now 1/4 inch longer and more upright than they were, JPX rand went this way a couple of years ago.
any Mizuno club of the old spec suited me fine and could just buy off the shelf or SH, which is how i also ended up witha set of MP57, MP37 and MP62
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Well I'd want to be able to play to my 8 handicap - and if I could manage that with such as MP4s I might actually accept not getting any lower.
I did the same back about 1985 when, playing off 16, I saw a set of almost new pre-owned Wilson Staff Tour Blade Fluid Feels for sale in the club Pro Shop - just loved the look of them and so just bought them. As I did soon afterwards when I saw a driver, 3w and 5w MacGregor super eye-o-matic persimmon clubs for sale - they looked so beautiful I just had to buy them - and so I did.
I taught myself to play these clubs - played them for over 20yrs - and got to 6 - though tbh - I did struggle with the driver and a bit of consistency - and that probably kept me from getting a bit lower.
I did the same back about 1985 when, playing off 16, I saw a set of almost new pre-owned Wilson Staff Tour Blade Fluid Feels for sale in the club Pro Shop - just loved the look of them and so just bought them. As I did soon afterwards when I saw a driver, 3w and 5w MacGregor super eye-o-matic persimmon clubs for sale - they looked so beautiful I just had to buy them - and so I did.
I taught myself to play these clubs - played them for over 20yrs - and got to 6 - though tbh - I did struggle with the driver and a bit of consistency - and that probably kept me from getting a bit lower.
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Why not get a combo set with mp4 in the short and middle irons. Buy a separate mp4 3 iron for those stingers.