hot face ?

[garyinderry]

fact or fiction?


how much difference is a supposedly hot face going to make?


two clubs swung on trackman, one with a hot face, the other not so. they have same club head speed, same smash, same launch characteristics. would there be a notable difference in distance?



open to the floor! :fore:

 

[Stuey01]

I think the point is that if one has a hot face and one doesn't then all other things being equal the smash cannot be the same, the hot face will have better smash factor and therefore higher ball speed and more distance.

 

[dufferman]

I thought a 'hot face' was just a sales term. I didn't think there is actually a measurement of how 'hot' a face is?

Also, there isn't a club with and without a hot face? E.G. you can't buy an SLDR HOT FACE and SLDR REG FACE. So you would never know?

 

[garyinderry]

I thought a 'hot face' was just a sales term. I didn't think there is actually a measurement of how 'hot' a face is?

Also, there isn't a club with and without a hot face? E.G. you can't buy an SLDR HOT FACE and SLDR REG FACE. So you would never know?

plenty of new clubs claim to have an ever hotter face! I cant imagine this term was bandied about even 5 years ago.

I stand corrected, quickest search on the internet and people are talking about hot faces in 2007

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

It's 'hot faces' that lead to many of the regulations in place today. There is a COR measurement that regulates how hot the face can be. In very simplistic terms, it is how far a ball will spring off the face. I believe the limit is .830 or thereabouts and this means that a ball dropped onto the face from a height of 1 metre cannot bounce any higher than 0.830 metres off the face. (techie guys help me out here please)

I had one of the very first lot of R7 drivers and it was non conforming, that was back in the mid 2000's, maybe around 2005. The rules changed soon after that, maybe something to do with me hitting 375 yard drives

 

[el marko]

It's 'hot faces' that lead to many of the regulations in place today. There is a COR measurement that regulates how hot the face can be. In very simplistic terms, it is how far a ball will spring off the face. I believe the limit is .830 or thereabouts and this means that a ball dropped onto the face from a height of 1 metre cannot bounce any higher than 0.830 metres off the face. (techie guys help me out here please)

I had one of the very first lot of R7 drivers and it was non conforming, that was back in the mid 2000's, maybe around 2005. The rules changed soon after that, maybe something to do with me hitting 375 yard drives

You learn something new everyday!

 

[HawkeyeMS]

I think the point is that if one has a hot face and one doesn't then all other things being equal the smash cannot be the same, the hot face will produce a higher ball speed and therefore have a better smash factor and more distance.

Mr Picky fixed that for you

 

[garyinderry]

It's 'hot faces' that lead to many of the regulations in place today. There is a COR measurement that regulates how hot the face can be. In very simplistic terms, it is how far a ball will spring off the face. I believe the limit is .830 or thereabouts and this means that a ball dropped onto the face from a height of 1 metre cannot bounce any higher than 0.830 metres off the face. (techie guys help me out here please)

I had one of the very first lot of R7 drivers and it was non conforming, that was back in the mid 2000's, maybe around 2005. The rules changed soon after that, maybe something to do with me hitting 375 yard drives

http://www.golfwrx.com/237325/cost-complex-question-straight-answers/


old adams boss says it was maxed out in 05. does that mean the "even hotter face" line is a load of bull?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

old adams boss says it was maxed out in 05. does that mean the "even hotter face" line is a load of bull?

I suspect it is, usual marketing hype. Clubs are quite clearly governed regarding COR so I guess the manufacturers are being clever in finding new ways to increase distance. Clever shafts, controlling spin rates etc etc are the new flavour of the month.


Edit

Just found this link, explains what COR is :thup:

http://golf.about.com/od/faqs/f/cor.htm

 

[Stuey01]

I think a lot of the hot face type marketing is more to do with being "hot" (I.e. At or close to max COR) over a greater area of the face. Meaning, bigger sweetspot, which is important if like me the middle of the club is rarely used!
All drivers are long when hit in the screws, but how often do you hit it on the screws.

 

[dufferman]

plenty of new clubs claim to have an ever hotter face! I cant imagine this term was bandied about even 5 years ago.

I stand corrected, quickest search on the internet and people are talking about hot faces in 2007

Exactly! How hot can you get? A marketing term which sounded good for the driver it was put with... and now they need to make it sound better!

2016's Callaway Driver - with a scorching face which will blister your balls... oo:

 

[DaveM]

Exactly! How hot can you get? A marketing term which sounded good for the driver it was put with... and now they need to make it sound better!

2016's Callaway Driver - with a scorching face which will blister your balls... oo:

Sounds painful.

 

[Imurg]

Hot Face is a term also used when referring to fairway woods.
As the head is smaller than a driver it is difficult to get the same amount of a spring effect as you can with a 460cc head.
Manufacturers are using different steels to make faces thinner but stronger to allow more spring and get the COR approaching that of a driver.
This is also a reason why many seem to hit their 3 wood as far or further than their driver.
The COR is virtually the same but they get a better strikenfrom the shorter 3 wood....