Hitting long irons

[pokerjoke]

I have been down our grass range quite a bit recently working from 120 and in but today decided to take my 5 6 and 7 irons.

It was quite muddy so teed the ball up and got a fair bit of height so it stopped where it landed,when not teeing the ball up I could not get much height at all.

Any tips to getting some height,ta

Off out so will answer any question when I get back,thx

 

[Titleist3]

Try putting the ball further forward in your stance by an inch.

I always try to put a 7iron slap bang centre in my stance and only a few cm to the further forward would be my 6 iron then my 5.

Try to bend your knees a little more, especially in wet conditions, it'll help on both upswing and downswing.

Don't try and chop down on the ball but instead look to play through the ball.

 

[Craigg]

If it is that muddy, then possibly a downward strike with an iron is just pushing the ball into the ground so not launching correctly. Just a thought and maybe complete rubbish I'm talking.

 

[Junior]

I do this by playing the ball forward of centre , almost on my left heel, but not quite, and I feel like I'm trying to fade it. Not sure how or why it works but it does for me

 

[richy]

Are 5, 6 and 7 irons classed as long irons?

5 possibly but 6 & 7 are surely mid irons?

 

[pokerjoke]

I was definitely getting better results the further forward I put the ball.

Up until about a year ago my lowest iron was a 7 so a 5 and 6 are low for me as I wouldn't ever use a 4 or 3.

Yes it was soft but not too bad.

Thx for the replies and I will keep working on it.

 

[Face breaker]

I've got completely the opposite problem, I get far to much height and not enough forward motion, I've tried everything from moving the ball position around to trying desperately to get some kind of lag into my swing but sadly it's all been in vein, then I realised I'm hitting my 7i 150-160 anyway just happens to go up quite a lot which is ok as long as the wind isn't blowing, if the wind is up though it's a complete pain in the arse.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I was definitely getting better results the further forward I put the ball.

Up until about a year ago my lowest iron was a 7 so a 5 and 6 are low for me as I wouldn't ever use a 4 or 3.

Yes it was soft but not too bad.

Thx for the replies and I will keep working on it.

Keep ploughing on. Winter is ideal and if you can get it right off wet, sloppy lies think how good your strike will be come the firmer Spring ground. Sounds like the ball forward is the way to go so just play around with the exact position

 

[Region3]

My thought when I need to hit a high one is to feel that the clubhead is passing my hands as I make contact. Probably a very bad thought for some people but it seems to work for me.

My problem with my 3 & 4 irons, and especially with the 2 when I had one, was thinking I had to smash it to get them to work, when in reality I have enough speed to get the ball in the air. A hard thought to ignore though and caused many a thin fade.

 

[351DRIVER]

I will not have a 5 iron being called a long iron, it isn't

Thread is about MID irons.

thank you

 

[ScienceBoy]

Instead of taking your stance and moving the ball try standing to the ball with your feet together. Make sure the middle of your feet together stance is in line with the ball, you may need alignment sticks or mat lines to do this the first few times.

Once ready move your left foot a little and then your right a little more. Keep resetting to the middle until you know how much to move each foot to position the ball where you want it.

This method makes for a more natural stance instead of taking a default stance and moving your whole body relative to the ball.

 

[freddielong]

I have tried to post on this thread but can't get past a 7 iron being described as a long iron, no still can't.

 

[Papas1982]

I have tried to post on this thread but can't get past a 7 iron being described as a long iron, no still can't.

I think originally the op was simply describing how he can hit clubs to a cerati diastance well and then struggle with clubs required for distances longer than that, But lets not let that get in the way of petty point scoring.

What if someones bag is:
Driver
3 wood
5 wood
4Hybrid
5hybrid
6 iron
7
8
9
PW
48
52
56
Putter.

Technically the 7iron is a long iron......

 

[richy]

I think originally the op was simply describing how he can hit clubs to a cerati diastance well and then struggle with clubs required for distances longer than that, But lets not let that get in the way of petty point scoring.

What if someones bag is:
Driver
3 wood
5 wood
4Hybrid
5hybrid
6 iron
7
8
9
PW
48
52
56
Putter.

Technically the 7iron is a long iron......

It's not.

It's one of the longest iron he carries but it doesn't make it a long iron.

 

[Craigg]

When I was a lad long irons were 1, 2 and 3

 

[HomerJSimpson]

For me (at a rick of going off tangent) long irons these days for many set ups will be 3,4,5 mid irons will be 6, 7, and 8 and the remainder including wedges are the short irons

 

[BomberSRL]

All about contact with the ball and depends on how you hit the ball if you are a picker or a digger too. The front of stance ball position will work for this. If you dig a little bit just open your shoulders up and the club face a little bit allowing for a slight fade. Well that's what I do to get a bit of height anyway!

 

[USER1999]

Is a five iron, with the loft of a 3 iron, the longer shaft of a 4 iron, a long iron?

 

[Orikoru]

Try putting the ball further forward in your stance by an inch.

I always try to put a 7iron slap bang centre in my stance and only a few cm to the further forward would be my 6 iron then my 5.

I do exactly the same. When I got new irons back in August I struggled with the 5 & 6, but I started hitting them with the ball slightly nearer my left foot in the stance, and the difference was very noticeable. Got under the ball a lot more then. Like you I take the 7 iron bang in the middle though.

Are 5, 6 and 7 irons classed as long irons?

5 possibly but 6 & 7 are surely mid irons?

I know what you mean, but like a lot of people my iron set is 5 to SW, so the 5 is the longest iron in my bag. So I tend to refer to the 5 and 6 and the longer irons, 7 and 8 as mid, and the 9, PW and SW as the short ones.

 

[pokerjoke]

Maybe 5 6 7 irons are mid to some and maybe they are right but as others say this is the lowest irons that I use but the fact is I'm struggling to get the 5 and 6 especially the 5 and 6 up in the air enough to come down relatively soft,not really for the winter but harder summer greens.

So today another session taking on board some of the suggestions given and although results were slightly better still not much height.

However I do believe I might have found the reason why but I may need someone with a bit more knowledge to break it down.

I have a very short backswing and I found that when I did actually complete the backswing or made it longer than normal I was getting more height,however this is a major problem for me as I fail to complete the backswing most of the time.

I don't seem to have a problem with shorter irons and seem to get a lot of height with these clubs even off a shorter swing.

A problem I would rather not have but one I look forward to tackling,anyone with any further thoughts.