Hit ping 4 iron 170 and taylor made 6 iron 170 WTF !

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Im on my second set of pings since returning to playing golf 1st set was i3+ second set was i5 both i like very much however being 6'3" with apparently a good consistent swing i got no length at all so i compared my freinds new taylor mades and found i hit my i5 4 iron 170 yards and his taylor made 6 iron the same distance WHY is it down to technology or just the brand dont suit me

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It may not suit you but it is also likely that the loft of the TM 6 iron is similar to your Ping 4 iron. Check the lofts out online before deciding the Pings are rubbish, it may surprise you.

Don't forget to beware the "trying another club" syndrome. This guarantees a fantastic strike but that does not necessarily continue when you actually buy said club.
 
lofts are stronger - your I5 has 24 degrees of loft and the TM M2 6 iron (as an example) has 25 degrees - add in some new tech and its no wonder the distances were similar.
 
It will most likely be the lofts. Taylormade lofts have been strengthened throughout the bag. The Ping i3+ 4 iron is 24 degrees of loft and the Taylormade rsi1 6 iron is 26.5 degrees of loft and the new M2 6 is 25 degrees!!

So basically the 4 iron in the pings is nearly exactly the same as the 6 iron in the new M2 irons. Check the lofts of both of the clubs and i'm sure you'll see a big difference between them. The numbers don't mean anything anymore
 
Some newer TMs will also be built to put less spin on the ball. This may increase distance (which is why people get excited about minimizing driver spin rates), but may not be what you want in an iron. Spin, after all, is what helps a ball stop on a green. Always a nice thing to be able to do, even with a 4 iron.
 
Depends which TM iron but there are some GI ones M2 for example with very very low lofts and very light shafts (80 odd grams vs 120odd for your standard dynamic gold or KBS tour). They manage to maintain decent launch angles due to weighting in the clubhead and the very low kickpoint in the stock shaft but don't put much spin on the ball helping distance but reducing stopping power when it lands.

M2 7 iron is 28.5* whereas the 7 iron in a Mizuno JPX-900 Pro or a Titleist AP2 is 34*. The move towards stronger lofts in anything but the most "player" focused models is common across all the brands, for example the JPX-900 Forged is already down to 31.5* compared to the Pro. In the end all that matters is that you have consistent yardages with good gaps.
 
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Ignore the number on the bottom and all the talk about 'jacked lofts', if companies put out irons in what people called traditional lofts these days, the ball would travel further up than it would travel forward

The new technology that allows players to launch the ball easier means that to maintain distances the lofts have to be made stronger, and you will also probably find that the newer clubs will spin less due to this technology. In some cases you might think this would be a problem, but more often than not, the ball will be descending at a much steeper angle and therefore doesn't need as much spin to get it to stop

Even with the new technology and lower spinning irons, I find that full shots with almost any of my irons has very little roll-out when hitting into a green from a fairway

At the end of the day, as long as you know how far you hit each iron in your bag it doesn't matter what number is on the bottom, play your own game
 
TheDoctor said:
Ignore the number on the bottom and all the talk about 'jacked lofts', if companies put out irons in what people called traditional lofts these days, the ball would travel further up than it would travel forward

The new technology that allows players to launch the ball easier means that to maintain distances the lofts have to be made stronger, and you will also probably find that the newer clubs will spin less due to this technology. In some cases you might think this would be a problem, but more often than not, the ball will be descending at a much steeper angle and therefore doesn't need as much spin to get it to stop

Even with the new technology and lower spinning irons, I find that full shots with almost any of my irons has very little roll-out when hitting into a green from a fairway

At the end of the day, as long as you know how far you hit each iron in your bag it doesn't matter what number is on the bottom, play your own game
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finally someone who gets it......
 
TheDoctor said:
Too much time spent somewhere else.....How's the herniated disc :D
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Bloody painful, just been to chiropractor.

The loft argument can get quite heated on here, not too many understand launch is key with iron number. Quite a few could do with spending some time somewhere else and see what they would get from it
 
TheDoctor said:
Ignore the number on the bottom and all the talk about 'jacked lofts', if companies put out irons in what people called traditional lofts these days, the ball would travel further up than it would travel forward

The new technology that allows players to launch the ball easier means that to maintain distances the lofts have to be made stronger, and you will also probably find that the newer clubs will spin less due to this technology. In some cases you might think this would be a problem, but more often than not, the ball will be descending at a much steeper angle and therefore doesn't need as much spin to get it to stop

Even with the new technology and lower spinning irons, I find that full shots with almost any of my irons has very little roll-out when hitting into a green from a fairway

At the end of the day, as long as you know how far you hit each iron in your bag it doesn't matter what number is on the bottom, play your own game
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Summed up nicely
 
BristolMike said:
finally someone who gets it......
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Many of us get it - but those who have been here a long time have given up on it....

Back to the OP - 170 with a 6 iron is good, but isn't pushing the boundary at all; 170 with a 4 iron is pretty poor.

What this means is that there is scope for a huge number of possible reasons for what you experienced (including the try a club syndrome mentioned!).

It's even possible that the extra length in your current 4 iron shaft is working against you making a good contact; shaft in TM suited you better, overall club weighting suited you better etc etc
 
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