Higher Loft Drivers really do add distance..

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I usually play a 10.5 degree driver (Ping G15), which I've been using quite happily for about 4 years now. I hit quite a high ball and don't have trouble hitting over the trees for the Tiger line and such when needed at our gaff. When I strike it well, it goes a good distance too, so it was never in my mind to play a 12 degree. Even when I was originally fitted for the G15, and the pro recommended a 12 degree, I was too worried to take it based on the height I already got with the 10.5.

My 13 year old son, who's now about 1cm shorter than my 6' 2" was fitted for a G25 12 degree, which he got for Christmas. He let me have a swing with it over the weekend, only one shot, after I'd already hit a good one with my own driver. I easily out drove my own by a good 10 yards or more, and with a swing that didn't feel as good as my first one. Not to be outdone though, my son then out drove that by another 5 yards. I couldn't believe the difference in the club.

Off the back of that, I borrowed a 12 degree G25 demo club from the pro and played 18 holes in the swindle yesterday. I used it on as many holes as I could, bar one, where I just tried to hit the skin off it, I have to say that it flew a treat, even directly into a strong facing wind, it just seem to cut its way through. I could see the extra elevation, but the lack of spin gave it some extra carry for sure, and could even see it "correct" itself in mid flight. All I can say is wow. On top of that, albeit on a slightly shorter course than usual and temporary greens (if you can call them greens), it kept me in play and I shot my best round ever, 10 under handicap for a 9 over gross, even accounting for a couple of cut holes.

I am so surprised by the difference a degree and a half made. Now just need to work out how to justify the finances for a new one.......
 
I am so surprised by the difference a degree and a half made. Now just need to work out how to justify the finances for a new one.......

Easy one... if you shoot that much below h'cap several times in the season your winnings will pay for it - sorted.
 
I usually play a 10.5 degree driver (Ping G15), which I've been using quite happily for about 4 years now. I hit quite a high ball and don't have trouble hitting over the trees for the Tiger line and such when needed at our gaff. When I strike it well, it goes a good distance too, so it was never in my mind to play a 12 degree. Even when I was originally fitted for the G15, and the pro recommended a 12 degree, I was too worried to take it based on the height I already got with the 10.5.

My 13 year old son, who's now about 1cm shorter than my 6' 2" was fitted for a G25 12 degree, which he got for Christmas. He let me have a swing with it over the weekend, only one shot, after I'd already hit a good one with my own driver. I easily out drove my own by a good 10 yards or more, and with a swing that didn't feel as good as my first one. Not to be outdone though, my son then out drove that by another 5 yards. I couldn't believe the difference in the club.

Off the back of that, I tried wed a 12 degree G25 demo club from the pro and played 18 holes in the swindle yesterday. I used it on as many holes as I could, bar one, where I just tried to hit the skin off it, I have to say that it flew a treat, even directly into a strong facing wind, it just seem to cut its way through. I could see the extra elevation, but the lack of spin gave it some extra carry for sure, and could even see it "correct" itself in mid flight. All I can say is wow. On top of that, albeit on a slightly shorter course than usual and temporary greens (if you can call them greens), it kept me in play and I shot my best round ever, 10 under handicap for a 9 over gross, even accounting for a couple of cut holes.

I am so surprised by the difference a degree and a half made. Now just need to work out how to justify the finances for a new one.......
I tried a higher lofted (11.5°) driver last year, but although my shots carried further through the air, the ball seemed to come down quite steeply with very little run. Overall I was hitting the ball less far and my drives were being more affected by the wind, so I quickly went back to a 10.5° driver. Sold the 11.5° on eBay and didn't lose that much money on it.
 
I have always thought that lower lofted drivers hit longer but the dispersion of the shots in my opinion is too great and seems very inconsistent to me . I've got a Callaway Diablo 13.5 degree driver and I generally hit it long and straight with a strong draw and the dispersion on my driver is tighter than my playing partners. Long live higher lofted drivers!!
 
Lots of stuff in GM and other mags about club golfers needing to use more lofted drivers to get the benefits and this seems to reinforce this. My G25 was set to 10 degrees when I ordered it but I am going to tweak it back to the original 10.5
 
I tried a higher lofted (11.5°) driver last year, but although my shots carried further through the air, the ball seemed to come down quite steeply with very little run. Overall I was hitting the ball less far and my drives were being more affected by the wind, so I quickly went back to a 10.5° driver. Sold the 11.5° on eBay and didn't lose that much money on it.

I thought you just switched to an R1 set at 11.3 degrees?
 
If hit correctly and with the exact same shaft then it's surely impossible for a higher lofted driver to go further than a lower lofted one.

Isn't it like saying your 7 iron goes further than your 6 :confused:

I thought higher lofted drivers where being recommended these days so golfers have more forgiveness when the club head isn't delivered square to the ball?
 
Lots of stuff in GM and other mags about club golfers needing to use more lofted drivers to get the benefits and this seems to reinforce this. My G25 was set to 10 degrees when I ordered it but I am going to tweak it back to the original 10.5

Are you going to keep any clubs or settings the fitters recommended for you Homer :ears:
 
If hit correctly and with the exact same shaft then it's surely impossible for a higher lofted driver to go further than a lower lofted one.

Isn't it like saying your 7 iron goes further than your 6 :confused:

I thought higher lofted drivers where being recommended these days so golfers have more forgiveness when the club head isn't delivered square to the ball?

It depends on a number of variables. Swing speed, wind direction, ground firmness.

A lower lofted driver may need a higher swing speed to get any benefit otherwise the launch angle may be too low.

Also this time of year all of your yardage will be carry, in the summer it may be different.

Hasn't Dustin Johnson just put a 12 degree sldr in his bag??
 
From believing everything TM say;) isn't it the combination of higher loft with less spin/lower CG on the driver that does the trick. Which is what modern drivers do? Or at least that's what TM claim they do, sure I read that most pros are increasing their lofts with the modern drivers nowadays.

Get yourself an adjustable one so you can play around with the lofts to see what gives you the best results.
 
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I thought you just switched to an R1 set at 11.3 degrees?
Only because I hit the ball too low with the default 10° loft, to the extent that I couldn't always get the ball airborne. Then tried 12° and that hit it too high, so backed off one setting and that seemed about right for winter golf. May try 10.5° in the summer to get more roll on dry fairways.
 
If hit correctly and with the exact same shaft then it's surely impossible for a higher lofted driver to go further than a lower lofted one.

Maybe due to difference in technology between my old driver and the newer model, but apparently the newer model creates less spin on the ball, therefore flying further through the air. Although I see your point and could argue that if I'd tried a 10.5 degree, it should still perform better than my current 10.5 based on that. The point made above about less role out may be valid too, would like to see how this performs on a warm summers day. Will also go and ask the question you've asked.....

As a point of note, was informed yesterday that Westwood is now hitting an 11 degree driver for the extra carry.
 
Its all subject to the numbers you produce. If you hit up on the ball 4 or 5 degrees and add a load of spin to boot a 12 degree driver may not be for you, if you hit level or down on the ball more loft may help.

Also as has been said, its going to be different summer to winter. At the moment my 3 wood carries about 10 yards shorter than the driver as the driver has not roll on winter fairways. I do not expect that in the summer.


Worth saying that there is a lot more loft on the top of a driver face and a lot less on the bottom of the face. I think 1* more on the top and 1.5* less on the bottom because of the face roll.
 
I understand that launch angle is mostly controlled by the characteristics of the shaft, and backspin is controlled by loft in modern clubs. So it's a case of finding which combination of the two best suits your swing. Not just that a higher or lower static loft will automatically hit the ball further. You also have to consider the sum of carry though the air and roll on the ground to get the most length.
 
Higher loft drivers really do add distance...........................

I would disagree with that statement, but I do know where you are coming from with it. Wouldn't a better statement be " A driver with the correct loft for you can really add distance.

I increased the loft on my driver and found that it did not go further, just gained more consistency.
 
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