High loft drivers with low spin shafts any views?

[harpo_72]

I was in the bar after a round and the conversation got round to drivers. Now I am a believer in using loft and a low spin shaft. However I found the suggestion of trying 12 degrees + was a little extreme. I would be interested in hearing different views.
The opportunity to hit one last night and felt quite comfortable but it did fluff up into the wind, so a shaft change would be a good idea. I could also get it off the deck.

 

[Karl102]

Ethan's the man in the know about shafts. My limited knowledge would point you towards a pro launch red shaft, Gamola Golf have them for about £30. Other than that I have a RIP Phenom (65g) in mine which is quite low launching.

 

[BTatHome]

Depends on so many variables. If you hit on the up then your launch angle could be huge and a low spin shaft may not be enough to keep it from ballooning up.

It's still quite personal, and the one that works for you may not be for everyone, so try it and see what happens is probably the answer.

 

[harpo_72]

I have an Arthur extreme shaft floating around looking for a home, so will look out for a head.

 

[Bobirdie]

I had a r9 tp last season. 11.5 degree graphite design ys6 x stiff shaft

Loved it gave me a nive high powerfull flight.

It had no problem getting out their and cut through the wind quite well.

The extra degree helped straighten my drives out when i was struggling last season.

Now onto rbz 10.5 with same shaft and love it

 

[Foxholer]

High launch, low spin has been the 'ideal' for quite a while.

How you do it doesn't really matter.

Lee Westwood's 10.5 is normally quite a bit higher - and a shaft not dis-similar to yours either. NV Green is pretty low spin.

 

[G1BB0]

my R1 is set at 12 degree with a Matrix ozik RUL stiff, not sure if it is low launching but it gets it out there and pretty straight generally.

I would be interested to know about the shaft so await Ethans response

 

[harpo_72]

Went out last night with 910 D3 cranked to 11 degrees (max on a 9.5 head) and the weights were set to std. A Fubuki stiff shaft installed and set one position closed. Net result, some huge drives! I was carrying further even into the wind and more control. I don't normally use a 910 because I don't think it's the hottest of face or the most forgiving ( but that is my opinion) but in this set up I am tempted to keep it in the bag.

 

[harpo_72]

Further investigation has led me to look at flight scope and see what it calculates as maximising my hang time and carry. Basically for me 14 degrees launch angle and anything in the 2800-3200 rpms of spin with a ball speed of 142-147mph will give me the best results. So it may explain why getting more loft its a good idea, and killing the backspin number via a shaft will equate to more distance.

 

[Alex1975]

There are hundreds of options, Ethan will struggle to offer you what is best for you as there are literally hundreds of low spin shafts on the market from every manufacture. Weight will also play a part in this.

 

[harpo_72]

Yes the weight will knock the height of the shot down, but I don't want to increase the weight as it will affect swing speed. I have a good low spin shaft to try. I am just wondering whether I should look for a quality 12 degree head and go from there.

 

[Foxholer]

my R1 is set at 12 degree with a Matrix ozik RUL stiff, not sure if it is low launching but it gets it out there and pretty straight generally.

I would be interested to know about the shaft so await Ethans response

RUL is pretty much 'mid everything' but rewards a smooth/flowing swing rather than a slash! Slashes tend to exaggerate hook/slice tendency. Torque mid, bordering on mid-high, but possibly feels more.

I've been a Matrix fan for over 10 years. Had (and still have) the RUL's predecessor (Code series) in several guises and really liked it - specially the 'hinge'. Code 8 in 3W as fabulous. Strong C6 in Driver is now too strong for me!

Was out with a big hitting American who had a RUL 70 stiff that went a huge distance. Had a waggle and a couple of hits and it's pretty similar feel too. Not as stable as the TP7 for me, but that's probably familiarity. He hit my combo even longer than his!

Overall, a pretty/very good shaft for a 'feel' swinger.

 

[Curls]

My Ping G15 (regular TFC shaft) is 12 degrees, I was fit for it a couple of years back and see no reason in the immediate future to change. Its a lovely club, if something goes wrong with the shot its on me, I've had decent distances out of off-centre hits and cracking ones out of the middle. Perhaps an upgrade will be needed in a year or so (technology does progress so I'm not anti changing drivers) but for the time being its a great tool.

Recommend you try one but try plenty others too, if its a one-off gig then find something you're comfortable with and have confidence in, don't get to hung up on the numbers, our swings are a bigger variable than we like to admit

 

[Mugs]

This is exactly my setup, mizuno mp630 12* with a Fubuki rayon

Best choice I've made in a driver, people would think it would balloon however I hit it the same height as my mates 10.5* driver but I get more carry

If its a links course and into the wind ill hit my 3w and not lose distance, it's its with wind behind ill just rip the driver

 

[Foxholer]

Further investigation has led me to look at flight scope and see what it calculates as maximising my hang time and carry. Basically for me 14 degrees launch angle and anything in the 2800-3200 rpms of spin with a ball speed of 142-147mph will give me the best results. So it may explain why getting more loft its a good idea, and killing the backspin number via a shaft will equate to more distance.

Those numbers are pretty much what anyone in the 95-100 mph Swing Speed should be able to achieve. That should give you 235 Carry. You could eek a bit (5 yards or so) more carry with a higher Launch, but that might be suspect in the wind. I don't believe you actually need a particularly unusual set-up - unless your swing is rather unusual.

What numbers are you getting from the G20/NV65? What is the specified loft of the G20?

 

[harpo_72]

The G20 is a 10.5 degree head, so very little difference to 11 degrees. But the distance did feel substantially longer. The numbers on this combo I don't know it's perceived feel and shot shape.
This was all just an experiment stimulated by bar chat!

 

[Foxholer]

The G20 is a 10.5 degree head, so very little difference to 11 degrees. But the distance did feel substantially longer. The numbers on this combo I don't know it's perceived feel and shot shape.
This was all just an experiment stimulated by bar chat!

Head is probably more like 11.5 or even more! Ping seem to either measure from a different place or allow a bit for 'ego' (Mizuno is apparently worse!)

The NV65 is a pretty low spin/launch shaft. If you are getting 235 carry, there's no reason to change imo.

Swinging faster, but still middling it, is the way to maximise Driver distance!

Bar chat can be very dangerous and expensive!

 

[harpo_72]

I was happy with that set up, could be related to the quality of the shaft. I don't want to swing harder, may slip a disc ! Honestly my yardage is fine I am looking for ease of use as well.

 

[ScienceBoy]

It gets it out there and pretty straight

I will believe that when I see it :ears:

 

[G1BB0]

hey, I had a few decent ones, just cant chip or putt