Heretical golf

Denny

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Hi,
I am completely new to this forum but thought I would start as I mean to go on and try and stir things up a bit.
The thing is, I play golf very differently to everyone else I know. What is more, I am sure I am right and everyone else is wrong! When I try to explain my methods to my friends and playing partners, they tend to laugh a lot and ask me why, if my methods are so good, I am not playing professionally? I usually answer that I know the correct method of running a hundred metres, but it does not mean I can take on Usain Bolt!
I will start the ball rolling (or flying) by asking why it is that we are told to keep the left arm straight throughout the swing? The answer I am usually given is to create as wide a swing as possible, as this gives speed.
No it does not! If you wanted an even wider arc, then don't hinge your wrists and see where that gets you.
The speed in the swing comes from the wrists unhinging and the club head catching up with the arms. We know it as "lag" and we are told to maintain it as long as possible.
My conviction is that bending the left arm at the elbow, we create more lag and as this unwinds, it massively increases club head speed. You have created a three pendulum swing instead of the usual two pendulum swing.
I am 67 years old, weigh under 12 stone and have a swing speed of 105 mph (measured).
Does a tennis player keep his arm straight when serving?
Does a baseball player keep his arm straight?
Would you keep your arm straight when using an axe?
I welcome your thoughts as long as they are civil.
Denny
 
As someone who swings with a bent left elbow (hangover from cricket days) and a SS recently measured at over 110mph with the driver I think you must be perfectly correct. Its impact on dispersion sadly is not as positive. Welcome :D
 
Hello & welcome.

You're not wrong, as can be seen from the swings of the likes of Calvin Peete, Jim Furyk & Eamonn Darcy. That said, you're telling us something we don't already know.

Equally, how quirky swingers are winners, and how many traditional swingers are winners? The answer to that gives you an idea of what is the safest bet.

Good luck.
 
Hi Denny and welcome

You are wrong - I don't know why but I just wanted to help stir things up :clap:
 
I always thought left arm straight was for accuracy? If your arm is straight up and down, there is less room for error. Think of how much more surface area you have on a cricket bat or tennis racquet compared to a golf club. Also looks at how hot a golf ball is compared to a tennis ball or cricket ball; mm of difference make a huge dispersion range and spin.
 
Can the golfer always pick the right shot to play.... always have sound & good impact conditions ... can send the ball always in the right direction to find the right target ..... & get the ball to disappear... down the hole.... in the least number of shots.... so play to scratch or better consistently.

You are wrong, but only because your looking at the golf game from the wrong perspective :funk:.... & (slightly bent) angle.
Welcome.:swing:You might need to borrow this .... :sbox:
 
Welcome aboard!

You didn't mention your handicap.

I don't believe I have a straight left arm all the time either - but it's straight at the moment of truth! And, as a 90mph-er, i'm a 60yo wimp!

However, most Pros have pretty straight left arms pretty much all of the time - until after impact - and as they are always searching for a competitive edge, if flexed was better, that's what they'd be doing!

As an aside, it's not the arms that are the true engine of the swing anyway. It's the rotation of the hips and torso, with help from the legs - appropriately synchronised!
 
Nothing new to your argument - the 2 vs 3 pendulum theory has been argued and biomechanicaily modelled to death

Computers usually hit the ball pretty consistently, human beings less so.

If we really wanted to stir it up we could argue that your model is flawed because it doesn't take the longitudinal flexure and the torsional rotation of the shaft, and the moment of inertia of the club head, and the difference in drag of a large driver head compared to a bladed 9 iron, plus the significant effect of a hip shift on initial acceleration, etc etc. :). But I won't !

But an excellent opening gambit to start your forum career - welcome on board.
 
The first lesson I ever had I was told to keep my left arm straight. Kept it that way ever since. I didn't ask why, I just did what the pro said. Best info a pro has ever given me.
 
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