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garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
It may be polite to do. Would you go as far as saying that its actually rude not to do so.
bluewolf
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I wouldn't be offended mate.. Especially not by a silver tongued charmer like you..
I would be sad to see it disappear though. Change may be the only constant, but that does not mean that it is for the better..
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
I was unaware that people cared so much. I've seen pros do it pretty much all the time. I will watch for this now to see how well it is observed.
We are a lot less formal where I am come from Dan. You must forgive my ruffian ways.
We are a lot less formal where I am come from Dan. You must forgive my ruffian ways.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
I think I'd just think to myself 'you do know it's polite to remove your hat when shaking hands at the end of the round' Not sure I'd think the person rude - just missing out on something that is a nice courtesy to others - as well as good manners.
bluewolf
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I was unaware that people cared so much. I've seen pros do it pretty much all the time. I will watch for this now to see how well it is observed.
We are a lot less formal where I am come from Dan. You must forgive my ruffian ways.
Nothing to forgive matey.. I'm a complex blend of German and Irish.. All reined in by a Wigan upbringing.. I'm a mess of contradictions...
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
It's good manners to do it, same as it's good manners to stand up when introduced to someone to shake their hand, good manners to say excuse me when you belch or fart, good manners to hold a door open for someone etc etc.
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Interesting no note that some people think that in time the current generation of golfers (me included) will stop such traditions/etiquette.
But having been raised as a hat remover, I have noticed that over the years Jim Furyk has gone from being someone who rarely removed his hat to someone who seems to nearly always does so. Perhaps Fluff insists on it I don't know?
To me it's just "the done thing".
But having been raised as a hat remover, I have noticed that over the years Jim Furyk has gone from being someone who rarely removed his hat to someone who seems to nearly always does so. Perhaps Fluff insists on it I don't know?
To me it's just "the done thing".
NWJocko
Tour Winner
I always do it, baseball cap, flat cap or woolly hat, even if it's freezing it's only for a second or two.
I was taught to do it by my grandad when I started playing as a wee lad (a long time ago) and would have got a cuff round the head if I didn't!
Can honestly say I've never noticed if people I'm playing with have or haven't though, I would guess most do though...?
I was taught to do it by my grandad when I started playing as a wee lad (a long time ago) and would have got a cuff round the head if I didn't!
Can honestly say I've never noticed if people I'm playing with have or haven't though, I would guess most do though...?
Canary_Yellow
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Without trying to sound overly pedantic. This thread is not about the removal of hats in the clubhouse. It's about the removal of hats when shaking hands.. Subtle, but a difference nonetheless.. Oh, and manners are always important. No matter how much bearing they have on the recipient.
I sincerely hope that simple acts like the removal of a hat never go out of fashion. It may seem like a petty annoyance to you, but as a very good Royal Marine friend of mine always says - "Manners make the Man." And I find it best to agree with him every time..
Oh, and I'm 40.. And a very childish 40 at that, as all those on here who know me will confirm...
I never said that.
I consider myself to be well mannered; I hold doors open for people, I give up my seat frequently on the train to those more in need of a seat, I use a knife and fork correctly, I say excuse me, please, thank you, I never talk with a full mouth etc etc etc.
As it happens, I also take my hat off to shake hands and I take my hat off in the club house. I don't however, consider it bad manners not to. I don't find it a "petty annoyance", I just think it's become an arbitrary rule rather than manners.
I don't mind that I'm in the minority who think that. Equally though, I won't lose any sleep when someone doesn't take their hat off to shake my hand at the end of the round even though I've removed mine.
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Yes, it is still lost on me. It's also lost on me why you seem to be taking this personally!
I understand that some people (and seemingly the majority on this forum) think it is polite to remove ones headwear to shake hands at the end of a round of golf (and indeed, I do remove my hat). What is lost on me is why it is considered to be bad manners not to. I'm sure you will point to tradition and that's fine, I accept the history of the gesture, I just think it's lost its relevance these days.
I would say golf is also perhaps in the minority when it comes to this gesture - look at all these impolite cricketers:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=c...&sa=X&ei=Ya02VI6gA9DrarqlgbAL&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
And all of these baseball players:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=c...oAQ#tbm=isch&q=baseball+players+shaking+hands
You might well dismiss those other two sports as being irrelevant to the OP as it referred only to golf, but I don't think it would serve the game of golf well to exist in a microcosm containing only golf.
Now I'm not saying people shouldn't remove their hats to shake hands, but in my opinion, it's not necessary to do so and it's not impolite or ill-mannered not to.
bluewolf
Money List Winner
And yet, reading most of the responses above, most think of it as manners, rather than an arbitrary rule.
Canary_Yellow
Journeyman Pro
Etiquette without basis is just an arbitrary rule.
triple_bogey
Tour Rookie
TBF, this forum constitutes a tiny portion of golfers worldwide. Not all agrees.
I'm more in the ''yes and no'' group, sometimes I do and don't. And I certainly won't think less of anyone that doesn't take their hat off during a handshake.
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Believe it's traditional manners to remove your hat and sunglasses etc when finishing to shake hands
But would certainly not think any different of someone if they didn't do it and wouldn't think it rude or bad manners
But would certainly not think any different of someone if they didn't do it and wouldn't think it rude or bad manners
bluewolf
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Not really. Etiquette is etiquette. Rules without basis are just arbitrary. Etiquette and rules are 2 different things.
bluewolf
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In all fairness, I was referring to the answers on this forum and not the majority of golfers worldwide. Different cultures will have different views..
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Sun glasses..........traditional, I don't think so.
I can't remember anyone wearing sunglasses to play golf before around 2000.
Sunglasses another means of making money off golfers.........a bit like wearing only a left handed gloves but with a bit more sense.
Canary_Yellow
Journeyman Pro
Haha! Excellent pedantry.
As far as I'm concerned, removing ones headgear generally, has started to slip from being etiquette to being a rule. I understand that they're two different things, but I do wonder what people would do if there weren't a rule to tell them that they should.
Time will tell I guess. We'll have to revisit the thread in about 25 years time! Or maybe we can do it as a time lapse and revisit once every five years to see what's changed, if anything!
