Has it ever been done?

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Just because I am wondering and there are no statistics on this online which I could find: how many amateur golfers (in the UK, let's say) are actually scratch players? And does anyone know someone who has started golf as an adult (being older than 30 when he or she started, let's say, without any experience with golf before that point) who has managed to get down to scratch?

My home club has over 1000 members and not one single scratch player at the moment, and the only one we had in the past has started to play at the age of 5 and did little else than play golf all through his childhood and teen years. A friend of mine started playing as a teenager, played golf in the highest German amateur golf league for a few seaons, and still plays in our ladie's team. She has played golf competetively for more than 30 years now, yet the best handicap she ever got down to was a 3.something. She says, she probably started too late to get really good at it. I also know a few professional athletes (mostly football players) who started golf after ending their professional careers and got very invested in it. They did manage to get down to single figures quickly, but there it seems to stal for them as well.

I am not saying it can't be done (even if no one had ever done it before I would not say it cannot be done, someone always has to be the first one), I am just curious, if somebody actually knows someone who started golf as an adult and who still has made it to scratch player.
 
I'm not sure where you would find stats , maybe you could send an email to the EGU they might keep that sort of information.

As far as touring pros and late developers go, Larry Nelson first discovered golf aged 21 and turned professional at 24. Constantino Rocca turned pro at the same age. There might be even later developers I don't know.

You're asking who might have made it to scratch which of course is a lower bar than making it on tour so there is probably a very good chance that someone in their 30's or even older has managed to do this.
 
You're asking who might have made it to scratch which of course is a lower bar than making it on tour so there is probably a very good chance that someone in their 30's or even older has managed to do this.

I suspect that it's a very small number but I'm sure it must have been done.
 
You get teenagers that are scratch and have played the game for under 8 years.

Cant see why some starting at 7 and being scratch at 15 has an advantage over someone starting at 25 or 30.
 
You get teenagers that are scratch and have played the game for under 8 years.

Cant see why some starting at 7 and being scratch at 15 has an advantage over someone starting at 25 or 30.


We are supposed to be better at learning when we are younger.
 
You get teenagers that are scratch and have played the game for under 8 years.

Cant see why some starting at 7 and being scratch at 15 has an advantage over someone starting at 25 or 30.

Time, I believe, is the answer.
Youngsters can play all summer, every day, practice and play morning till night...
Most people have to work for a living.
 
Time, I believe, is the answer.
Youngsters can play all summer, every day, practice and play morning till night...
Most people have to work for a living.

yep. the juniors at my last course were at the club all day every day in the holidays
 
My friends father retired aged 69 off 8 handicap and within a year got down to 3.
He played off that for a few years and remained single figures into his 80's.
He died on the course in his 90th year.

Absolute club legend.
 
You get teenagers that are scratch and have played the game for under 8 years.

Cant see why some starting at 7 and being scratch at 15 has an advantage over someone starting at 25 or 30.

Time to play, flexibility, fearlessness, less injury prone, overall fitness and I'm pretty sure it's scientifically proven that younger people are better learners both mentally and cognitively
 
US handicaps so slightly different scoring but this table was on the Dan plan from a couple of years ago:

http://thedanplan.com/average-golf-handicap/

Top 20% of golfers were under 9, Top 1% were scratch or better.

https://scratchtoscratch.wordpress.com/about/ and his book Dream on was a player trying to go from not breaking a 100 to a scratch round. Very different to a scratch handicap but I guess it means in theory it's perfectly possible.

Best I've played with was a guy who did Europro and was +4. Completely different game to what I was playing off 13.
 
This guy is a good example: http://thedanplan.com/about/

Not updated since 2015 after it started to go all tips up... back started creaking, mental fatigue etc stuff that don't happen as a youth

I believe on the 10000 hours thing but think there's a time constraints in a lot of stuff. IE you need to start when young
 
We have 1 scratch golfer (0.4) out of around 500 members! We have another who is agonizingly close (0.7)
 
5 at my club scratch or better out of about 750 members. Quite a lot of cat 1s and a fair few of those in touching distance of scratch or have been scratch previously.
 
There are always exceptions to the rule and the reasons/causes of such exceptions are varied and numerous. Bar those exceptions the general rule must be that those starting late (lets say over 30) would never make it to scratch. Many reasons for this although I personally feel lack of time (family/work and other commitments) and reduced physical abilities (well beyond peak at 30 and above) would be the 2 biggest reasons
 
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