Handicap Question

[User 105]

I played the first of our summer comps this morning and think I should have sneaked myself a .3 cut.

Par is 71. CSS was 72.

I shot a net 72, but had an 8 on a par 5. Which I think should get rounded down to a net double bogey 7 giving me an adjusted score of 71. So I'm 1 shot less than CSS.

Is that correct ?

 

[AuburnWarrior]

No, I don't think it is. The 'double bogey' rule only applies to the three handicap cards, not competition play. So, your 8 stands I'm afraid.

Sorry.

 

[FourPutt]

The handicap cards are adjusted to gross double bogey. In competitions they are adjusted (for handicap purposes only) to nett double bogeys. (i.e. stableford adjustment)

So, if it's a par 5 and you had an 8, assuming you don't get a shot on the hole in a stableford, then it will be adjusted to a 7. If it is a hole you get a shot on, then the 8 stands.

 

[Crow]

Count your stableford points, if CSS was 1 over par then 36 points should get you a 0.3 cut in Cat 3.

Well done.

 

[Golfmmad]

I'm with Auburn on this. And as far as I understand it, a net 72 in medal competition is net 72. But you will be in the buffer zone. And wont go up point 1.

Golfmmad.

 

[MashieNiblick]

I'm with FourPutt.

This is covered by clause 19 of the CONGU h/capping manual and is known as the Stableford Adjustment.

From the EGU website

"The purpose of the Stableford Adjustment is to place a limit on the maximum score that can be recorded at any hole in order to make handicaps more representative of a player’s potential ability. This control is for handicap purposes only. It has been introduced to lessen the impact of the occasional ‘bad’ score on a player’s Stroke Play return and to reduce the incidence of ‘No Returns’ that can, on occasions, represent an undesirable proportion of the competition entry. It also allows a player who does not complete a hole, for any reason, to continue to record a score for handicap purposes, thus sustaining his golfing interest and at the same time providing useful handicap information. It is important that competitors are made aware of the intent of this clause and encouraged to take advantage of it.

The Stableford Adjustment should be applied to all Stroke Play Qualifying Scores irrespective of whether they are made at the Home Club or at another club. See Clause 8.10(a).

19.1 Scores returned in Stroke Play Qualifying Competitions, whether or not all 18 holes have been completed, must be adjusted to the Nett Differential that would have applied if the competition had been a Stableford Qualifying Competition. No points shall be recorded on a hole where there is no score. A Union, at its discretion, may exempt specific events from the provisions of this Clause.

19.2 This adjustment is for handicap purposes only and, notwithstanding the provisions of sub- clause 23.2, reductions of less than one stroke shall be made under this clause."

Full details here

http://www.englishgolfunion.org/showpage.asp?code=0001000200090016

Quite often see a note to say that clause 19 has been applied to a competition score on our results sheets.

 

[Fyldewhite]

As above, if the par 5 was SI 14-18 then the computer will round down to a nett double bogey 7, you will be one under CSS and will get a cut. If not then the 8 will stand.

 

[Golfmmad]

OK, I stand corrected guys.

I was always under the impression that every shot counts in medal play.

Golfmmad.

 

[Crow]

OK, I stand corrected guys.

I was always under the impression that every shot counts in medal play.

Golfmmad.

Every shot does count in medal play but for handicap purposes it's all done using your Stableford score, so you can be 5 over your handicap in the medal but if that was caused by a big blow up on one hole you could still have scored, for instance, 38 points Stableford and get a handicap cut.