Parmo
Tour Winner
Morning All,
I was just wondering if I am able to hand in cards not in a comp but marked by a playing member?
I was just wondering if I am able to hand in cards not in a comp but marked by a playing member?
Handicap cards marked not in comp?
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Doh
Journeyman Pro
Yes there is no problem having a card marked by another member for handicap purposes. It does not have to be in a comp.
Just write on the card (For Handicap) and hand them in.
Just write on the card (For Handicap) and hand them in.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Yep
Just been given my handicap using 5 or 6 "casual" round cards, and two of those weren't even at my club!
I wanted to play in a medal the other week just to get a card marked for handicap. Was told I couldn't play in it because I didn't have a handicap!
Catch 22 situation eh???
Just been given my handicap using 5 or 6 "casual" round cards, and two of those weren't even at my club!
I wanted to play in a medal the other week just to get a card marked for handicap. Was told I couldn't play in it because I didn't have a handicap!
Catch 22 situation eh???
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Make sure you mark which tee you used as well. There may be a different SSS.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Absolutely. And as noted above, make sure you mark it "for handicap purposes" and don't forget to both sign it.
Parmo
Tour Winner
Thanks Lads, yep off whites and marked hcp card. Drove our 6th (260) with a 3 wood to 7 foot of the hole for eagle 
and ended with 49 points even after two blobs 
!!
Life is great now I have my good old driving back.
and ended with 49 points even after two blobs !!Life is great now I have my good old driving back.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
That's a firing squad score that is
Tommo21
Tour Winner
All sound information but I would ask one of the HC committee as the two clubs I play at need at least one card from a medal comp. In my opinion you should always use medal tees when playing for a HC.
Parmo
Tour Winner
That's a firing squad score that is
Its the difference in having my driver working and not!!
Deffo played of medal tees and I also marked HID's first card as well... 149!!
DCB
Well-known member
At my place we put in two cards from general play and a third is marked whilst playing in a competition. All then go in marked "For Handicap Purposes"
It's not getting the handicap that's the main thing, it's keeping playing in comps and getting it to the correct level that really counts.
It's not getting the handicap that's the main thing, it's keeping playing in comps and getting it to the correct level that really counts.
B
birdieman
Guest
You can only submit 'supplementary scores' if you have returned less than 7 cards for handicap the year before.
Supplementary scores are just for people who struggle to get many cards in, not for regular players to try and build handicaps or try to get handicaps down outside a competitive environment.
If you hand cards in and the match and handicap secretary tries to enter them into the Club2000 software it won't let him if the player has more than 7 cards in during the previous year. If you have less than 3 this year I expect it would let him enter a supplementary score however.
Supplementary scores are just for people who struggle to get many cards in, not for regular players to try and build handicaps or try to get handicaps down outside a competitive environment.
If you hand cards in and the match and handicap secretary tries to enter them into the Club2000 software it won't let him if the player has more than 7 cards in during the previous year. If you have less than 3 this year I expect it would let him enter a supplementary score however.
RGDave
Money List Winner
Is this for a h'cap?
If so, I don't see the problem.
Only thing I would say though is beware the "trap" of playing a shorter course to get the h'cap. I played a very short course (winter mats x3) and got nobbled with a completely unrealistic h'cap.
It's taken me over a year to get close....
If you hand in a 15/16/17 off a short course when the most likely result off whites would be (say) 17/18/19 the outcome may well be a 13-15 h'cap.
My best card was an 81 with a SSS of 67. There were no "worse-than-doubles" on my card, and I got 11.5.....GITS.
If so, I don't see the problem.
Only thing I would say though is beware the "trap" of playing a shorter course to get the h'cap. I played a very short course (winter mats x3) and got nobbled with a completely unrealistic h'cap.
It's taken me over a year to get close....
If you hand in a 15/16/17 off a short course when the most likely result off whites would be (say) 17/18/19 the outcome may well be a 13-15 h'cap.
My best card was an 81 with a SSS of 67. There were no "worse-than-doubles" on my card, and I got 11.5.....GITS.
SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
Sorry but this is completely wrong......only scores in a 'qualifying competition' over a 'measured course' count for handicap purposes (assuming you already have one) I'm afraid...
Parmo
Tour Winner
So even though I have a hcp and play in comps you are saying I can not hand in friendly cards marked by a member of said club?
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
So our Secretary was wrong giving me a handicap after 4 friendly games played on different courses?
DCB
Well-known member
Parmo,
I see where you're coming from now...
short answer... No.
I see where you're coming from now...
short answer... No.
DCB
Well-known member
Smiffy,
"So our Secretary was wrong giving me a handicap after 4 friendly games played on different courses? "
IMO yes, he was wrong in allocating you a handicap on that basis. Cards for your handicap should be over your home course. Once you have a handicp then playing in any "Qualifying Competition" at another course should be reported to your own club and they should then take that into consideration when managing your playing record and handicap.
"So our Secretary was wrong giving me a handicap after 4 friendly games played on different courses? "
IMO yes, he was wrong in allocating you a handicap on that basis. Cards for your handicap should be over your home course. Once you have a handicp then playing in any "Qualifying Competition" at another course should be reported to your own club and they should then take that into consideration when managing your playing record and handicap.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Have things changed over the last few years then?
When I was at Crowborough I could hand cards in from any course I had played and the then secretary would adjust my handicap under rule 19 (or whatever it is).
If I'm shooting the lights out, does it matter which course I'm playing? They all have SSS's and all have to be played.
When I was at Crowborough I could hand cards in from any course I had played and the then secretary would adjust my handicap under rule 19 (or whatever it is).
If I'm shooting the lights out, does it matter which course I'm playing? They all have SSS's and all have to be played.
DCB
Well-known member
Smiffy
In answer to your question, yes I believe there have been some fundamental changes to the system over recent years. There were certainly some tweeks carried out for the start of this season.
When you say you handed in cards, were they for bounce/friendly games at other courses or for away comps ?
In answer to your question, yes I believe there have been some fundamental changes to the system over recent years. There were certainly some tweeks carried out for the start of this season.
When you say you handed in cards, were they for bounce/friendly games at other courses or for away comps ?
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Friendly games at other courses.
