H/C allowance in comps ?????

[williamalex1]

We played a 4bbb invitation comp, the H/C allowance was 2 thirds . I remember years ago it was full H/Cs then changed to 3/4 now 2 thirds.
But some clubs especially in the Lothians area , make a weird calculation leaving you with a h/c of 3 and a third or the likes.


Who decides what calculation is used H/C allowance in these type of comps , is it left to low H/C men who run these comps . Or is it set down in the rules ????.

 

[rosecott]

We played a 4bbb invitation comp, the H/C allowance was 2 thirds . I remember years ago it was full H/Cs then changed to 3/4 now 2 thirds.
But some clubs especially in the Lothians area , make a weird calculation leaving you with a h/c of 3 and a third or the likes.


Who decides what calculation is used H/C allowance in these type of comps , is it left to low H/C men who run these comps . Or is it set down in the rules ????.

CONGU states that affiliated clubs must use 3/4 handicaps for such events.

 

[Evesdad]

Ours are either full hcp or 3/4, we have also changed this season and removed the hcp limit. Some were 24 limit plus the 3/4. This is now full hcp off the 3/4.

 

[DCB]

We played a 4bbb invitation comp, the H/C allowance was 2 thirds . I remember years ago it was full H/Cs then changed to 3/4 now 2 thirds.
But some clubs especially in the Lothians area , make a weird calculation leaving you with a h/c of 3 and a third or the likes.


Who decides what calculation is used H/C allowance in these type of comps , is it left to low H/C men who run these comps . Or is it set down in the rules ????.

By 4BBB am I correct in thinking this is a four man team playing in a team event ?

If so, the handicap allowance will be there to curtail the activities of certain teams who have sandbagged their way to several juicy prize tables by don't if their rather generous handicaps.

Others are some well known protagonists in the area you mention

 

[chrisd]

By 4BBB am I correct in thinking this is a four man team playing in a team event ?

If so, the handicap allowance will be there to curtail the activities of certain teams who have sandbagged their way to several juicy prize tables by don't if their rather generous handicaps.

Others are some well known protagonists in the area you mention

4BBB is generally match play between 2 pairs and the 3/4 handicap is taken from the lowest handicapper

 

[DCB]

4BBB is generally match play between 2 pairs and the 3/4 handicap is taken from the lowest handicapper

I was assuming it was at an invitation event as per op. I know most of those that I've played in are BB stroke play or Stableford format, 4BBB is usually a pairs matchplay format as you say, which is why I was confused by the OP statement about 4BBB at an invitation event.

 

[williamalex1]

I was assuming it was at an invitation event as per op. I know most of those that I've played in are BB stroke play or Stableford format, 4BBB is usually a pairs matchplay format as you say, which is why I was confused by the OP statement about 4BBB at an invitation event.

Sorry i should have said Silloth four ball stroke play.The format is -2 x 2 man teams, better ball, gross and net score is marked on the card.

Just to clarify , senior 4bbb comps advertised in" the wee yellow book" are played as 2 man better ball.

DCB, What calculation is used by your club for these type of comps ?

 

[Foxholer]

Never heard of 2/3rds Handicap comps!

Breaches Congu rules as far as I can see!

If it's to combat Sandbaggers, then a twelve-bore is a better method!

 

[DCB]

Sorry i should have said Silloth four ball stroke play.The format is -2 x 2 man teams, better ball, gross and net score is marked on the card.

Just to clarify , senior 4bbb comps advertised in" the wee yellow book" are played as 2 man better ball.

DCB, What calculation is used by your club for these type of comps ?

We play 3/4 of full hcp for each player for both strokeplay and stableford.

 

[Fyldewhite]

Calling a pairs comp a 4BBB is really illogical yet most golfers/clubs would recognise this terminology to mean playing with a partner at either Stableford, Medal or Matchplay where the better of the two scores is counted for the pair at each hole. The fact that it's played is groups of 4 is nothing to do with the format or the comp really and there are different handicap allowances depending on the format.

CONGU states that affiliated clubs must use 3/4 handicaps for such events.

Committees are there to implement the rules not make them. My biggest gripe about committees is when they make up their own rules that go against the very governing bodies they are affiliated to. Happens far too often IMO.

 

[williamalex1]

I found two formulas for a Silloth 4ball stroke play comp.

method- 1

1- the lower handicap is subtracted from the higher handicap

2- subtract the difference from 30

3- divide the result by 5

4- subtract the result from the low handicap , and that will be the playing handicap.




method 2


1- take the difference between the 2 handicaps , and subtract from 18

2- divide by 3

3- subtract that from the the lower handicap , and that is the playing handicap.

simple eh

 

[HickoryShaft]

I found two formulas for a Silloth 4ball stroke play comp.

method- 1

1- the lower handicap is subtracted from the higher handicap

2- subtract the difference from 30

3- divide the result by 5

4- subtract the result from the low handicap , and that will be the playing handicap.




method 2


1- take the difference between the 2 handicaps , and subtract from 18

2- divide by 3

3- subtract that from the the lower handicap , and that is the playing handicap.

simple eh

Maybe Carol Vordaman could write an app to help !

 

[duncan mackie]

I found two formulas for a Silloth 4ball stroke play comp.

it's a rare format which requires a different basis because it's gross BB less a combined formulae handicap (rather than normal nett BB).

as a result the handicap is very much based on the lowest player with a deduction for the likely contribution from the higher handicap player.

 

[williamalex1]

it's a rare format which requires a different basis because it's gross BB less a combined formulae handicap (rather than normal nett BB).

as a result the handicap is very much based on the lowest player with a deduction for the likely contribution from the higher handicap player.

Correct, most likely thought up by some low h/c player who was fed up losing to high h/c players.