Crazyface
Tour Winner
Has anyone bought and used one of these? Are they any good?
Groove Sharpener
- Thread starter Crazyface
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I have a funny feeling once you have used one they make the club you have used it on illegal to use in a comp as you have altered it from the way it was, ie changed the grooves.
could be wrong though
could be wrong though
Crazyface
Tour Winner
I thought that too, but why make something that would render your clubs useless? Then again, who'd know? Apart from you.
no different to giving the ball a better lie in the rough or bunker etc, who would know except you?
Club manufacturers machine the grooves to the optimum limit set out by the R&A. Any metal removed by these scrapers (apart from if you are trying to remove a bruise that's gone into the groove, and even that's iffy) will render the club non conforming.
Crazyface
Tour Winner
Jesus, and they wonder why golf is on the wane?
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Deleted member 15344
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How does it have anything to do with "golf on the wane" - which is actually not happening
hovis
Tour Winner
Most sports have regulations on their equipment, balls, rackets, engines, cars, boxing gloves etc. You can't randomly modify and expect to still be conforming.
GeeJay
Assistant Pro
Surely you're not suggesting that having to play with clubs that conform to the rules is bad for the popularity of the game?
It does seem odd that these are sold when they automatically make your clubs illegal, apparently. You would think they should come with a small print warning.
GeeJay
Assistant Pro
I agree.
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guest100718
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Thats becasue they dont
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Deleted member 18121
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I had the same issue with the Bionic gloves I used to like.... found out that the padding in those made them illegal for competition standards. No word of a warning on the gloves though.
trevor
Head Pro
But surely you're not modifying them, you're just bringing them back to the standard they were at when you bought them.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I was just going to say that. If the purpose is just to restore them to their former condition then I'm at a loss to explain why it's not allowed. Perhaps they just want to encourage people to buy new clubs and keep the lucrative market going for manufacturers.
The grooves are machined on very expensive CNC machines to optimum limits. You can't bring them back to original standard by running a bit of hardened steel up and down them by hand. You've not got a clue how much material is being removed.
So, illegal or not? Not illegal if grooved to the same level, illegal if deeper? How do you measure, does anyone measure?
Confused
Confused
ger147
Tour Winner
So, illegal or not? Not illegal if grooved to the same level, illegal if deeper? How do you measure, does anyone measure?
Confused
The shape of the grooves and the various angles are also defined in the rules and regs, not just the depth.
So it is theoretically possible to use one and not end up with a non-conforming club, with such an imprecise tool vs the exacting regulations, in real life you would almost certainly have a non-conforming club after using one.
So, illegal or not? Not illegal if grooved to the same level, illegal if deeper? How do you measure, does anyone measure?
Confused
It's conforming or non conforming. How do you measure? I've been machining for the best part of 40 years, I have inspection equipment including Micrometers, Verniers, Pin Gauges, Shadow Graph and a CMM and it would take me a considerable amount of time to measure the grooves.
