Two holes, a long downhill par 3 with a two level green and a shortish downhill par 4. Both have very steep drop offs at the back into rough rough. The par 3 needs a 160 yd carry to the lower level where the pin usually is. If you are short, you are faced with a very difficult second as only a lob shot from a downhill lie gives the only sure chance of not rolling through the green and down the bank. The downhill par 4 offers similar difficulty. If you lay up and hit a wedge and hit the green you are OK. If you are a yard or so short, you hit a downslope and go through. For many players, who aren't confident of hitting high shots, the temptation is to drive and then attempt to play a downhill pitch and run which almost inevitably trickles through. Both back fringes are cut very short which means that even if the ball arrives at 00.1 mph it's a goner. My question is - is this just a fair part of the challenge or would it be reasonable to ask for a " cuff" of semi to be created at the back of both greens?