Glossing

[spongebob59]

Got some woodwork to decorate, thinking of trying a water based gloss.
Anyone used this type or good any advice on what products are good.
Thanks.

 

[Craigg]

Got some woodwork to decorate, thinking of trying a water based gloss.
Anyone used this type or good any advice on what products are good.
Thanks.

In my experience it doesn't 'pool' as well as oil based gloss, thus leaving brush marks. Wouldn't use it again. I always use oil based eggshell these days for white woodwork. No brush marks, and disguises any imperfections better than gloss.

 

[fundy]

currently doing a whole house renovation, using Dulux trade satinwood on all the skirts, architraves, window boards and doors and had no problems with it at all

 

[Golfmmad]

Water based satinwood is my preferred choice these days. It leaves a smooth satin finish and does not yellow after time.

You will not get a high gloss finish with water based paint.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Personally I've found water based to be rubbish.
Only pro is it doesn't smell.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I have given up on anything other than Johnstones paint for a decent and long lasting finish.

 

[sawtooth]

Would only use the water based quick dry paint gloss/satin now. It stays white.

I cut in with a brush first then apply with mini roller and never had a problem with finish on doors, architrave, skirting etc.

If you are going over the top of old gloss then obviously sand first.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Zinsser Bin is absolutely brilliant stuff.
Very Expensive, you must do exactly as they recommend.

 

[jusme]

I have probably used 20+ liters of Dulux trade eco gloss (water based) over the last few years. I do a lot of painting. I wouldn't use any other type of gloss now and would NEVER use an oil based now. Superb gloss, easy to apply and no issue with brush strokes/application if you half know what your doing.

 

[Rooter]

another for dulux trade, i use the gloss pure brilliant white and its amazing, its super bright and glossy and applies really nicely. any good gloss work is all down to the prep! I am currently mid way through 6 door frames and a stair case... its doing my nut in and costing a fortune in sand paper pads, but will be worth it!

 

[spongebob59]

another for dulux trade, i use the gloss pure brilliant white and its amazing, its super bright and glossy and applies really nicely. any good gloss work is all down to the prep! I am currently mid way through 6 door frames and a stair case... its doing my nut in and costing a fortune in sand paper pads, but will be worth it!

Fancy doing mine seeing as you've had all that practice

 

[fundy]

another for dulux trade, i use the gloss pure brilliant white and its amazing, its super bright and glossy and applies really nicely. any good gloss work is all down to the prep! I am currently mid way through 6 door frames and a stair case... its doing my nut in and costing a fortune in sand paper pads, but will be worth it!

worked out it was easier and cheaper just to buy new skirt and architrave lol

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

BTW - I believe it's 'pulling' the gloss not 'pooling' it - my dad taught me to apply gloss paint by stretching it to prevent runs, and you know you've got it right when you feel a bit of resistance against your brush stoke - hence the 'pulling'. But that might be a load of tosh from my dad. But I don't think so.

 

[Dellboy]

BTW - I believe it's 'pulling' the gloss not 'pooling' it - my dad taught me to apply gloss paint by stretching it to prevent runs, and you know you've got it right when you feel a bit of resistance against your brush stoke - hence the 'pulling'. But that might be a load of tosh from my dad. But I don't think so.

You dad was right about pulling the gloss, but that only works for the old oil gloss.

Nowadays with the waterbased paints, you mustn't do that, you have to put it on and not over brush it.

Dulux is OK at best, there are a lot better paints out there but do cost more, another thing to look out for, if you don't want the " Yellowing effect " is to make sure you use true water based paints, some still are hybrids which use small parts of oil so can still yellow over time.

Little Greene or Sanderson is good and can be found in a lot of local shops, but the paints I use ( Ok I paint kitchens and furniture for a living so cost isn't a problem) are Benjamin Moore or Tikkurlia, both can be found online.

As with all paint, always buy Trade paint never retail.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You dad was right about pulling the gloss, but that only works for the old oil gloss.

Nowadays with the waterbased paints, you mustn't do that, you have to put it on and not over brush it.

Dulux is OK at best, there are a lot better paints out there but do cost more, another thing to look out for, if you don't want the " Yellowing effect " is to make sure you use true water based paints, some still are hybrids which use small parts of oil so can still yellow over time.

Little Greene or Sanderson is good and can be found in a lot of local shops, but the paints I use ( Ok I paint kitchens and furniture for a living so cost isn't a problem) are Benjamin Moore or Tikkurlia, both can be found online.

As with all paint, always buy Trade paint never retail.

Thankyou for that good advice as I have a winter decorating project ahead of me.

 

[Rooter]

worked out it was easier and cheaper just to buy new skirt and architrave lol

I've done that too! Still the inside of the door frames and outer 5mm with 39 years of paint to remove first! Then the new skirt and arc have to match as well, but I buy primed and it's good to go!

 

[fundy]

I've done that too! Still the inside of the door frames and outer 5mm with 39 years of paint to remove first! Then the new skirt and arc have to match as well, but I buy primed and it's good to go!

yep all sounds familiar, 160m of architrave and 110m of skirting :0

 

[JollyRedDevil]

You dad was right about pulling the gloss, but that only works for the old oil gloss.

Nowadays with the waterbased paints, you mustn't do that, you have to put it on and not over brush it.

Dulux is OK at best, there are a lot better paints out there but do cost more, another thing to look out for, if you don't want the " Yellowing effect " is to make sure you use true water based paints, some still are hybrids which use small parts of oil so can still yellow over time.

Little Greene or Sanderson is good and can be found in a lot of local shops, but the paints I use ( Ok I paint kitchens and furniture for a living so cost isn't a problem) are Benjamin Moore or Tikkurlia, both can be found online.

As with all paint, always buy Trade paint never retail.

What is the difference between trade and retail?

 

[Rooter]

yep all sounds familiar, 160m of architrave and 110m of skirting :0

yeh i need to go buy another 40M of architrave this weekend.... #fml

 

[drdel]

Slightly off the subject but while all you experts are hanging around I'll ask the question.

Out place is now 20 years old; builders used MDF for inside window sills. They stained all 18 off them brown to match the Bolton & Paul timber windows. A few have been chipped by kids and stuff be placed on them so they now really need redoing/smartening up.

The snag I forsee is that applying more stain will make them darker and it will be hard to get an even colour.

Any ideas/suggestions; other than move house