Format importance ?

[williamalex1]

Today three of us are standing waiting to take part in the club's Bogey comp, 2 of us are full members, 3rd guy is a midweek member who isn't allowed to take part in the actual comp, but is allowed play a bounce game using the front tees.

So far so good, as the comp format is 2 or 3 balls only, then along comes an old mate [ a full member] who wants to play in the comp.

So we toss the balls up and me and the mid week guy set off as a 2 ball, followed [a hole behind] by the other 2.
The course was busy with 3 and 4 balls all backed up. The other 2 ball caught up as we were waiting on the 4th tee.
We then decided to join up as a 4 ball, knowing we would probably be disqualified .

But then we thought maybe not necessarily so , because the mid week guy wasn't playing in the actual comp and he did play from the front tees.

Anyhow the 3 of us played poorly anyway , and we did write DQ on our cards.

Thoughts please .

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It seems to me that three of you played in the comp and you had someone with you playing social golf

Can't see why you would be DQ for that.

 

[chrisd]

I don't see any problem either

 

[palindromicbob]

If the club is running a comp will the max of a 3 ball as a stipulation and then you are getting held up by 4 balls then the time sheet is being badly managed.

 

[williamalex1]

If the club is running a comp will the max of a 3 ball as a stipulation and then you are getting held up by 4 balls then the time sheet is being badly managed.

On Fridays we sometimes have visiting parties, but you can just turn up and play a bounce game , or you can log in , pay and play in the comp as part of the Saturday comp.

We don't have a starter or start sheets on Fridays, only on Saturdays.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Don't see an issue. I would have put the card in and let the committee make a decision after you give them the facts

 

[HawkeyeMS]

2 questions...Why is the midweek member not allowed to play the comp on a Friday, and why does he have to play off the front tees?

As for the comp, I guess what you should have done is explained to the committee that you started as 2 x 2-balls and joined up because it was busy. DQ'ing yourself seems a bit premature. Would you have done so if you played well?

 

[williamalex1]

2 questions...Why is the midweek member not allowed to play the comp on a Friday, and why does he have to play off the front tees?

As for the comp, I guess what you should have done is explained to the committee that you started as 2 x 2-balls and joined up because it was busy. DQ'ing yourself seems a bit premature. Would you have done so if you played well?

The Friday is the same comp as the Saturday comp with only 1 winner, even though the CSS can be different each day . BTW his correct title is Associate member, they're not allowed to enter weekend comps, and have limited times they can play. Back tees are only used for official comps . We do have blue tees much the same length that can be used by anyone.

Yes i would have DQ myself whatever my score, because i know how our committee work. I've seen it happen many times.

Hands up, guilty M'lud.

PS If any of us had been playing well , we would have continued in the 2 ball format.:thup:

 

[HawkeyeMS]

The Friday is the same comp as the Saturday comp with only 1 winner, even though the CSS can be different each day . BTW his correct title is Associate member, they're not allowed to enter weekend comps, and have limited times they can play. Back tees are only used for official comps . We do have blue tees much the same length that can be used by anyone.

Yes i would have DQ myself whatever my score, because i know how our committee work. I've seen it happen many times.

Hands up, guilty M'lud.

I'm not sure I'd be happy as a midweek member if weekend comps were played on a Friday and I couldn't enter, it just seems a bit well...odd

 

[louise_a]

How is playing in a four instead of a 2 or 3 a valid reason for disqualification anyway? It ust seems to me that you were playing in a group that the pace of the course dictated.

 

[williamalex1]

I'm not sure I'd be happy as a midweek member if weekend comps were played on a Friday and I couldn't enter, it just seems a bit well...odd

The Friday comp is only because full members can't always get a time on a busy Saturday . Mid week guys only pay £370 compared to full members fees of around £650 .

 

[williamalex1]

How is playing in a four instead of a 2 or 3 a valid reason for disqualification anyway? It ust seems to me that you were playing in a group that the pace of the course dictated.

The format of the comp is 3 balls, I've seen many a game being disqualified, because they allowed a lone player to join them after his FC walked in injured at the 15 hole , making them into a 4 ball .
They should have split into 2 x 2 balls.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Dont know about the comp, but we had problems with certain members (you know the ones, the "inner club" who think they own the place) who were going out in fours in the Sunday comps, despite a stipulation being that it is 3 balls only.

I know there are times when due to being held up, groups have joined into a four for a few closing holes.

However, its more the message it sends out. You then can have others that are unaware going out in fours, mistakenly not knowing the rules, or can happen with new members. Some were just brazenly doing it as well.

Committees have to look at the greater good, so have to enforce these rules.

 

[user2010]

Worrying over nowt, just play the game.............:thup:

 

[Hosel Fade]

I'm not entirely certain you can get a rules of golf penalty (DQ) for playing in a different group size. Club penalties (warnings, comp suspensions etc) sure

Happy to be corrected on that

 

[mcbroon]

The Friday comp is only because full members can't always get a time on a busy Saturday . Mid week guys only pay £370 compared to full members fees of around £650 .

That's the club's, or the weekend members' problem, not the associate members'. If I was a 'midweek' member but wasn't allowed to play in a comp midweek, I'd take my money elsewhere.

Last time I checked, Sunday was part of the weekend. Why not make the weekend comp Sat/Sun, rather than hold it on a day which isn't actually on the weekend?

Crazy.

 

[bobmac]

Dont know about the comp, but we had problems with certain members (you know the ones, the "inner club" who think they own the place) who were going out in fours in the Sunday comps, despite a stipulation being that it is 3 balls only.

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Why are 4 balls not allowed ?

 

[Hobbit]

I'd let the associate member play in the comp as it might encourage him to become a full member.

 

[brendy]

Associate/5 day members shouldn't be allowed to enter weekend comps, to me that is why their membership is much cheaper. You can't have your cake and eat it without getting the full members backs up.

 

[williamalex1]

Why are 4 balls not allowed ?

I suspect it's to prevent players playing a match play game during a stroke play comp.