sam85
Head Pro
If you've never had a handicap can a club just assign you any handicap or do they have to give you a H/C based on your initial 3 cards?
First Handicap
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They will give you a handicap based on you three handicap cards you submit
pbrown7582
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you cant just be assigned a handicap you have to submit three signed cards, clubs rules can vary slightly on who can mark and sign the cards.
sam85
Head Pro
This is what I had assumed to be the case, however they have allocated me a H/C of 16 which has just been increased by 0.1 with each card I have put in (5 in total now). I feel like 16 is about right for me but my scorecards are clearly showing this is not the case. I was just curious to know whether handicap committees could assign a handicap without any sort of playing evidence.
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rosecott
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That doesn't seem particularly relevant. The OP stated that he was allocated a handicap without submitting any cards. That is a clear breach of CONGU rules and his club owes him an explanation.
sam85
Head Pro
The point I was getting at is that from day one I had 16(with the c next to it which I believe means it was an 'active' handicap). FYI the first 3 cards were +27, +27 and + 20 and the other two were stableford where I scored 31 points on both occasions.
I'm not angry or looking to have a go at anyone really I just wanted clarification on whether this was normal practice.
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Which club is this ?
So to get things clear
You joined the club , had no official HC , the gave you one before putting any cards in ?
sam85
Head Pro
Yep that's it exactly. Never previously had an official handicap and got given 16 without putting any cards in.
I was interviewed before joining at which point I told them I had been playing in societies and with friends off 16 and managing fine with it. However playing off the yellows with a group of friends and playing off the whites at my new club are two very different things.
I was interviewed before joining at which point I told them I had been playing in societies and with friends off 16 and managing fine with it. However playing off the yellows with a group of friends and playing off the whites at my new club are two very different things.
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Which club is this because as been stated they have broken Congu rules - you can't give someone a handicap without putting in cards.
sam85
Head Pro
Perhaps if they have broken the rules I should not mention their name on a public forum and just speak to someone at the club. As stated previously I'm not looking to stir trouble just wanted clarification on what the rules were.
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Well they have broken congu rules and would certainly speak to them
Colin L
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That is very sensible.
sam85
Head Pro
Thanks for the advice I will speak to them. I just don't want to say something and then go and shoot a 16 over(which is possible, my best round is 10 over) in the next competition and then look like I have effectively cheated. Herein lies my predicament.
Sam have a look at this link it explains how to get an initial handicap.
http://www.congu.com/obtaining.htm
http://www.congu.com/obtaining.htm
Crawley1981
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I should hope it's just an admin error taken from notes when you were interviewed rather than said club just allocating handicaps willy nilly. Also think you have done the right thing not naming them and taking it up with them yourself.
Let us know how you get on.
Let us know how you get on.
sam85
Head Pro
Many thanks for that it was as I suspected. Have I read that right that now I have put in 3 cards I could essentially be given any handicap they deem fit?
rosecott
Money List Winner
No. The point is that a minimum of 3 cards must be submitted as the first part of the handicap allocation process. The club can vary the handicap which the submitted cards suggest but would need to have extremely good reasons to do so. Your club is completely in the wrong if they allocated purely on the basis that you had had a society handicap of 16.
sam85
Head Pro
It was indeed an admin error. Just a case of crossed wires, I had put 16 on my application and then stated in interview that this was in actual fact not an official handicap.
have now been given a handicap based on the cards I put in. Now to get out on the course and try and work on bringing it down!
Curls
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Fair play Sam, too many folk would name and shame, followed by a call for heads, only to find out it was human error. What did they give you? Best of luck bringing it to 16 and beyond! See you on the Forum.
