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Hi all

I'm after a bit of advice. I submitted my 3 cards, with adjusted scores of 104, 97 and 90. Par is 70, so I presumed that I would end up with a handicap of 20 - however I've just been told that it's 26. I chatted to a couple of the other members, and their reaction was to make the most of it and get myself playing in competitions and use the extra 6 shots to my advantage. I am all for playing well, but I don't want to cheat the system by using 6 more shots that I should really get. The 104 and 97 cards were both just awful rounds, and not a fair representation of my ability - just 2 off days combined with the pressure of submitting a card - I really feel that playing with a handicap of 20 is a much better reflection of my golfing ability.

Does anyone have any advice on what I should do?

Thanks
 
Personally I'd be playing in comps and hoping that the two high scores were just off days. If you didn't feel comfortable with that you could always stick in a supplementary or two.
 
Go with it you've put the cards in and been allocated a h/cap nothing more you can do.
You mention feeling the pressure in playing a card round it'll be the same in qualifiers too.
 
Get your self into the comps. You didn't give yourself your handicap, so you can't be accused of cheating. Once you've posted a couple of good rounds, the h'cap committee will have chopped your legs off anyway.

Make hay...
 
Someone has made a monumental snafu when trying to work out what you should be given as your initial allocation. It's quite clear what the process should be and what is taken into account to get that initial allocation. I'd ask them how they got that figure, if they say that's it, then play away. It's their mistake not yours.
 
Big mistake from your club, your handicap should clearly be 20 at most (possibly less). Ask for an explanation and if they are resilient on your handicap, go and shoot another 90 and enjoy your winnings!
 
Clearly an incorrect allocation by your handicap commitee. i'd go straight back to them and query it refering to the current Congu UHS handicap allotment guidance as the basis of your query (you can download UHS document from Congu here - http://www.congu.com/online_version.htm). if your committee are incorrectly alloting handicaps the quicker they are informed the better so they can revise their allocation process in line with Congu rules. Otherwise they will keep getting it wrong which would be extremely unfair on existing members.
 
SSS is also 70.

For the record - the gross scores of the 3 cards were 110, 108 and 94, but when adjusted down to max. double bogey gross on each hole, they work out to be 104, 97 and 90.

Thanks for the feedback so far
 
Contact the Handicap Secretary, point out the scores and ask why the high allocation.

It would be interesting to see what he/she gives for a reason.

Were those scores off the Whites?
 
Excuse my ignorance, I'm probably wrong here somehow...

but is this incorrect?

http://www.mygolfexperience.com/golf/uk/golf-handicap.asp

Calculating your Starting Handicap

First you need to establish what your starting handicap would be.
What you need is the following information:

  1. Three scorecard for games played over a 18 hole course.
  2. The course standard scratch score (SSS) of the Tee you are playing on. Usually ranges between 70-74.
CONGU allows double bogey (+2) maximum, on any hole. Therefore, if a player takes 8 shots (gross score) on a par 5, the maximum score allowed for that hole is 7 (adjusted Gross Score)
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[TH="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]Adj. Gross Score[/TH]
[/TR]
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[TD]
1​
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[TD]
110​
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[TD]
71​
[/TD]
[TD]
39​
[/TD]
[TD]
35​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
2​
[/TD]
[TD]
103​
[/TD]
[TD]
72​
[/TD]
[TD]
31​
[/TD]
[TD]
24​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
3​
[/TD]
[TD]
100​
[/TD]
[TD]
72​
[/TD]
[TD]
28​
[/TD]
[TD]
25​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]
84​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
From the above example add three adjusted gross scores i.e 84, and divide by 3. i.e. 84 / 3 = 28. So your starting handicap would be: 28.0

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So for you...



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[TR]
[TH="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]Round[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]Strokes[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]Standard Scratch[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]Gross Score[/TH]
[TH="bgcolor: #F0F0F0"]Adj. Gross Score[/TH]
[/TR]
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[/TD]
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110​
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70​
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[TD]
40​
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[TD]
34​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
2​
[/TD]
[TD]
108​
[/TD]
[TD]
70​
[/TD]
[TD]
38​
[/TD]
[TD]
27​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
3​
[/TD]
[TD]
94​
[/TD]
[TD]
70​
[/TD]
[TD]
24​
[/TD]
[TD]
20​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]
81​
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
From the above example add three adjusted gross scores i.e 81, and divide by 3. i.e. 81 / 3 = 27. So your starting handicap would be: 27.0



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Like I said I'm probably wrong, but that was my understanding.

 
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Ahh ok, that makes sense, kind of I guess.
What is the point of the other two cards then?

Possibly it was some weird (incorrect) combination of below highlighted?


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Exactly, but it was just said they are completely disregarded?

So for example, if I submitted 3 cards, 2 that were maximum amounts of shots possible, and 1 that somehow miraculously broke even I would just be given a scratch h'cap?

HawkeyeMS said:
It gives a better indication of your ability.
Click to expand...
 
Vice said:
Exactly, but it was just said they are completely disregarded?

So for example, if I submitted 3 cards, 2 that were maximum amounts of shots possible, and 1 that somehow miraculously broke even I would just be given a scratch h'cap?
Click to expand...

What I meant was that golfers are inconsistent, it is quite conceivable that I could go and shoot 87 tomorrow, if that was my only handicap card, I'd be off of 17. By doing 3 cards it gives you more chance to play to your ability. The other cards can also be taken into account if there was a big discrepancy, like the 2 x +28s and level par in your extreme example.
 
Thanks for clearing that up Hawkeye, so there is a possibility that the other cards might have been taken into account in this instance.

If anything it does make me less nervous of submitting my cards when the time does eventually come I guess.

HawkeyeMS said:
What I meant was that golfers are inconsistent, it is quite conceivable that I could go and shoot 87 tomorrow, if that was my only handicap card, I'd be off of 17. By doing 3 cards it gives you more chance to play to your ability. The other cards can also be taken into account if there was a big discrepancy, like the 2 x +28s and level par in your extreme example.
Click to expand...
 
Vice said:
Thanks for clearing that up Hawkeye, so there is a possibility that the other cards might have been taken into account in this instance.

If anything it does make me less nervous of submitting my cards when the time does eventually come I guess.
Click to expand...

It's possible but I would say in your case that the cards weren't so drastically different that they should be
 
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