Exceptional Scoring Reduction - Discretionary?

brfcfan

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Hi All

Wondered if anyone could help. I am handicap sec at our club and have been giving everyone an ESR when the computer has suggested that someone needs one.

However a member has stated that the ESRs were introduced on a trial basis as non discretionary with the idea being that this would be reviewed and Handicap Committees would become responsible for discussing ESRs that were thrown up by the computer and make a discretionary decision if the ESR should be implemented.

Am I still correct in giving everyone an ESR or do somes clubs make a discretionary decision?
 
Believe the member is quoting correct wording but Congu suggest all recommended ESR are implemented as you have been doing.

There are some who know better who will confirm for you soon.

Welcome along and enjoy the fun :)
 
I believe they are discretionary, but the recommendation from Congu is to apply each one.

I have heard of one or two that have not been actioned, but that does not seem right to me. The whole idea is to have a consistent approach across all clubs, so applying all ESRs should provide that - certainly not applying some promotes inconsistency imo.

SGU believe their H/Secs are better placed to assess adjustments than an automated system, so ESRs are not applicable in Scotland.
 
the whole point about the trial is to be able to review the progress of players receiving ESRs - not applying them would be less than constructive to the trials aims!

however CONGU recognises that there can be extenuating circumstances, and that the committee is best placed to assess theses. The application of the ESRs are therefore discretionary but the committee should clearly document their reasons for not applying one ie the default position is that they are applied.

We have applied every one; and in a huge proportion of cases the player has gone on to gain a further system driven reduction.

I am aware of one notable forum member who talked his way out of one on the basis that it was ridiculous for a senior golfer who clearly wouldn't be able to play to such a handicap and it would take years to get it back up to a competitive level at 0.1 a competition - and he subsequently gained system derived reductions (through winning etc) to at least the same level!

Overall they seem remarkably well structured to deliver what a prudent handicap committee should be doing under the existing guidelines :thup:
 
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