Euro Pro Tour

[Deleted member 15344]

Just watching the Golf on SS4 and it's quite scarey some of the names playing on the Euro Pro now

Paul Broadhurst
Peter Baker
Andrew Oldcorn
Scott Drummond
Bradley Dredge

All used to be top players on the ET

There is also a couple of guys on the tour that I have moved up from the PGA East and have played with them in Pro Am's - Simon Lilly and Mark Hooper - good luck to them

 

[Foxholer]

It's either a developmental tour for the up and coming guys wanting to get on Challenge then Euro, or a social/competitive knock-about for the guys who don't want to bother with the Challenge.

Oldcorn is probably using it as a warm-up to the Seniors that doesn't start here until June! The US Senior PGA is the first tournament on the Euro list!

 

[groundskeeperwilly]

Who would you say are the 'up and comers' or 'ones to watch' on the tour?

 

[fundy]

Ive had the fortune to play in a few pro-ams with Mark Laskey from Brocket Hall, he has won previously on the EuroPro Tour (incl last yr) and would be optimistic of doing so again this yr. Cracking golfer and a really nice guy, just cant seem to catch the break he needs to progress to a higher level

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Who would you say are the 'up and comers' or 'ones to watch' on the tour?

I would say Daniel Gavins is one but don't know that many players

Maybe Hepworth ?

 

[LanDog]

A fella I know is going between the Euro Pro & the Jamega Tour, I think a lot of people underestimate how difficult it is to break through and stay at the top level

 

[Birchy]

Like anything in life if your good enough and you keep trying you will get there imo.

 

[Scotty_Tom]

There is also a couple of guys on the tour that I have moved up from the PGA East and have played with them in Pro Am's - Simon Lilly and Mark Hooper - good luck to them

I know Mark, played a few games / pro am's with him. Great guy and hes qualified for the BMW at Wentworth this year!

 

[Foxholer]

I have to say that, for most of the guys on Euro Pro or Jamega Tours, I don't believe that any of those that spends more than a year or maybe a second - if they are very young - learning the ropes on these tours is likely to make a big impact on the higher up Tours.

It is amazing how many really good golfers there are out there and the 'stars' really just sail through these 'lower leagues'. The likes of Tommy Fleetwood and Scott Jamieson have a brief flirtation and get to experience the 'big tournament' environment, but don't hang around long! Others, like Tom Lewis and Andy Sullivan go via the Elite Amateur route, so may never even play in these.

In order to make it on the 'big' tours, guys need to be shooting really low rounds on their home course regularly - 6-8 under! Going round occasionally a few under is just not good enough these days!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think for a lot of these golfers, especially the youngsters these tours can be a real wake up call as to how hard and competitive life is as you go up the ladder. That in itself is no bad thing and if they still have the game and the desire to do well then it's a fabulous basis to try and gain entry onto the main tour.

I would question whether these former tour guys are really there to compete and get back on tour. They may be, but having done it once I wonder if they really want all that travel etc especially if they are now settled at home with a family. The standard on the Europro tour is definitely rising and that can only be good for the game

 

[ArnoldArmChewer]

I have to say that, for most of the guys on Euro Pro or Jamega Tours, I don't believe that any of those that spends more than a year or maybe a second - if they are very young - learning the ropes on these tours is likely to make a big impact on the higher up Tours.

It is amazing how many really good golfers there are out there and the 'stars' really just sail through these 'lower leagues'. The likes of Tommy Fleetwood and Scott Jamieson have a brief flirtation and get to experience the 'big tournament' environment, but don't hang around long! Others, like Tom Lewis and Andy Sullivan go via the Elite Amateur route, so may never even play in these.

In order to make it on the 'big' tours, guys need to be shooting really low rounds on their home course regularly - 6-8 under! Going round occasionally a few under is just not good enough these days!

I would agree with you there but add that even on the Euro pro tour, one bad round in three will put you out of contention, these players have to be able to shoot low even when they are not at their best. Aside from Tom Lewis we have had a couple of guys from our club who have turned pro via the Euro pro tour, whilst they are very good players and can shoot low scores they have not been able to progress from this tour onto better and more lucrative events.

 

[Swinger]

Paul Broadhurst has been our Pro at our local Pro-Am last couple of years.
I think he struggled with a wrist injury and failed to get his card back a few years ago and is only a year or so away from the Senior Tour. He is just playing a lot of events to keep competitive before that.
Really nice guy.
He came second in the national par 3 comp last year a few days before our pro-am, then managed to slice his hand open the day before (trip to A&E) but still made the 4 hour round trip to come and play with us. I hope he does well on the with the Seniors but more importantly I hope he plays well again this year in our Pro-Am!!
Little short of the forum average but still gets it round ok!

 

[mchacker]

Our former assistant is just starting his 3rd season on the Europro, and as much as it hurts to say it this hasn't started any more successful than the previous two. Hell of a nice guy with time for anyone but only one top ten finish in two years isn't getting it done.

I think a lot of guys use Europro as a way of getting exposure for their sponsors, it's a difficult tour to make money on. Anything outside top ten will struggle to break even once you pay for travel, food and accommodation, even for the succesful players it'd be a grind to chase the events all year whilst putting a bit aside for the challenge tour next year.

 

[shivas irons]

Just watching the Golf on SS4 and it's quite scarey some of the names playing on the Euro Pro now

Paul Broadhurst
Peter Baker
Andrew Oldcorn
Scott Drummond
Bradley Dredge

All used to be top players on the ET

There is also a couple of guys on the tour that I have moved up from the PGA East and have played with them in Pro Am's - Simon Lilly and Mark Hooper - good luck to them

Most of those guys you mention have made their money are fed up of touring and are just keeping their hand in, they wont need the money....

 

[MadAdey]

Like anything in life if your good enough and you keep trying you will get there imo.

Not so easy in a game like golf. Unless you have rich parents you need to find a sponsor that is willing to shell out tens of thousands of pounds a year supporting you while you are trying to make it. Ok there are some ver y exceptional golfers that pick up sponsors straight away, but I bet there are quite a few players out there that have never had the financial backing to get their foot in the door.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Not so easy in a game like golf. Unless you have rich parents you need to find a sponsor that is willing to shell out tens of thousands of pounds a year supporting you while you are trying to make it. Ok there are some ver y exceptional golfers that pick up sponsors straight away, but I bet there are quite a few players out there that have never had the financial backing to get their foot in the door.

Sorry but I think it is a myth that there are players out there who would have made it if they had just had the breaks.

As Birchy says if you are good enough you will make it. Yes sponsorship makes it much easier but if you really do have "it" you will sooner or later come through.